By what criteria did the league decide which game to flex on Sunday? - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

stcjones · 12-27-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JR4

I disagree with you. If PATs played at 4 also the
JETs would not KNOW the PATs would win or lose until the score was
out of reach. Suppose the 1st half has PATs up only by 3 points?
They still have a shot at Divis

By playing at 1 if the PATs win, the JETs will go into their game
knowing
1. they win ... PATs are Division Champs
and maybe Raven lose and they get in as a wild card.
2. they lose Miami is Division Champs

THIS IS A HORRIBLE THING THE NFL HAS DONE.

They should have kept all three teams playing at the same time be it
1 or 4 .
There is absolutely no justifiable reason for this manipulation by
the NFL .... NONE!!!

Kraft and Belichick should be very vocal about this! The PATs guys have
fought though injuries and played their heart out only to get this slap in the face by the NFL. This is an outrage!

I could not agree with you more......well said........oh wait a minute...I'm the original poster...of course I am going to agree!!!! In all honesty, you and I think alike on this one....I'm not talking conspiracy theories......just that it isn't overly fair to the Pats to allow the Jests an opportunity to ****** us....by laying down.........If they know that their goose is cooked by halftime for example......trust me.....If all of a sudden they start running up the middle 3 times and punting......you will know the fix is in!

stcjones · 12-27-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by groundgame

dec. 28, 2008. Cbs announcing nyj/mia game :..."here is an update in baltimore as the ravens now go up 20-3 on the jaguars with 0:33 remaining in the first half, and here, brett favre has a 3rd and 11 at his own 4 yard in what looks to be a kneel-down situation with 8 seconds remaining in the first half with dolphins ahead 10-3. Whoaa, favre goes back to pass, is scambling in his own end zone, looking, looking, porter from the blind side, he's hit near the back of the end zone, ball loose, jets recover,.......hold on, the are trying to get to the bottom of the pile, touchdown miami, they go up 17-3 as the teams head to the locker rooms for half time. It is surprising dick to see brett giving joey porter the high-five after such a devastating play, and you'd think by brett's expression that the jets just scored not the dolphins. That's strange......."

lol.....

stcjones · 12-27-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alamo

You know, we are truly blessed at patsfans.com to have you present to ask the tough questions like that one, because apparently at no time in the 214 messages in that thread did anyone think of discussing that topic.

thanks.....I appreciate that.....Its great to finally get some recognition on here for my hard work and analysis........I feel the same way about your posts by the way!!!!!

abdul7 · 12-27-2008, 04:11 PM

Great post and the most important one i believe that will determine our chances tomoro.
HOW can some of my fellow friends not understand that by having the Jets play after our game is over, and should God willing we win,,,than our chances are FAR less than if we had played at the same time !!! Do some of you really want to believe that they will play with the thinking...GO JAGS ?? Not a chance. We win , their season is over, end of story. Will they play with same passion and dtermination ? I cant answer that now, all i know and so did that Goodell, that had we played both games at the same time Our chances were higher.
Disgraceful by the NFL, and i just cant understand why some just dont get it ? Its been done to stop the Patriots getting in. We Will Win,,,the Jets wont. Our chances are higher with the Jags. GO JAGS.

sieglo · 12-27-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

So, there you go, when it comes to competitive integrity, the league doesn't have to maximize that criteria. They can have less integrity if it makes them more money.

The flaw in this logic is that the NFL stands to make more money with NE in the playoffs than with Miami in. Making the decision to competitively disadvantage NE in order to maximize TV profits for one weekend makes no sense.

***jmt57*** · 12-27-2008, 06:23 PM

Well, I guess the NFL should have had the Chiefs-Bengals, Browns-Steelers, Titans-Colts, and Lions-Packers as the only 1:00 games, Chargers-Broncos at 8:00, and everything else on at 4:00 in order to avoid any potential meaningless games.

WhoaDirty · 12-27-2008, 06:28 PM

This conspiracy theory/anti- Patriot Godell thing is getting so ridiculously out of hand ...

Assuming that all teams will check the scoreboards at half time, it makes NO difference in a situation where the Patriots have won prior to the Jets game, or whether they are leading at the half (which is likely based on them being favourites). If all the games were at the same time, the Jets could be leading a close game at half, come in and see the Ravens and Patriots leading at half and we'd be in the same boat.

***alamo*** · 12-27-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

I think you're way off on Kraft's reaction to this. You really think Kraft believes it's a better move to mess with his team's playoff chances for the possibility of making the league a couple extra hundred thousand dollars? Really?

I think that principles that one believes in should hold even when they have the potential to hurt you. Kraft understands TV better than many owners and I am convinced he would support this move if the Patriots weren't involved, and also that he has enough integrity to support it even though they are.

I still believe this is all overblown, it is based on assumptions about team motivations which have been shown to not always be true, not to mention personal motivations which we can only speculate on.

NovaScotiaPatsFan · 12-28-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Plus, with the weather in Buffalo, New England's passing game is all but dead for tomorrow.

Yeah, just like it was dead in the rain in Seattle and Oakland and the snow last week.

upstater1 · 12-28-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sieglo

The flaw in this logic is that the NFL stands to make more money with NE in the playoffs than with Miami in. Making the decision to competitively disadvantage NE in order to maximize TV profits for one weekend makes no sense.

Great point. They like to make money wherever they can grab it, I guess. They know better than I do how the ratings work.

To be honest, I don't care about the TV, I only care about the competitveness of the games. I'm a fan of football, not the executives in charge.