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statisically speaking, the Jets win did hurt us quite a bit, to the point that overall our odds of making the playoffs went up only a little, up to 24.6%:
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the pats control there dynasty thats all i can say
No they don't.
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the pats control there dynasty thats all i can say
Not true. The Pats can win out and still miss out of the playoffs. However, they still have multiple ways to get in the playoff pool.
If the Pats do win out:
If either the Jets or Dolphins win out, that team is the division winner by tiebreaker, and the Pats come in second. Both those team have to lose a game (more below).
Indy would have to "lose out" at Jax and hosting Tennessee for the Pats to catch up and take a wildcard spot from them. Not probable.
However, if Baltimore loses at Dallas or hosting Jax, we can get in ahead of them; no competition from the Jets or the Dolphions for this last wildcard spot as one of them HAS to lose to the other in the final game.
If the Pats lose one more game (preferably it would be to Arizona), we could still sneak in, but an awful lot of things would have to go right for that to happen. The chances here are would be very thin I think.
That said, I think it's very realistic that both the Jets and the Dolphins could lose this coming weekend at Seattle and at KC respectively. The Jets just haven't been playing well and were lucky to beat the Bills today, and Seattle played the Pats tough last week; and KC is always tough at home. Now, if ONE of those two circumstances occur, then we would hope that losing team, the Jets or Dolphins, wins their contest in the final week. The Pats would then get the 3rd seed and open at home probably against the Ravens.
If the Pats do sneak in as a 6th seed, they would probably open up at the Jets or Dolphins.
Does anyone remember the improbable series of events that got the Pats the #2 seed and first round bye in 2001? There were two weeks left in the season, and the Pats were fighting the Jets for the division, and well as the Raiders for the #2 seed. They needed the Raiders to lose their last two games to overtake them and the #2 seed, but first they also needed the Jets to lose one of their final two games. However, the Jets were playing the Raiders in the final week of the regular season. So the Jets had to beat the Raiders, which meant they also had to lose, at home, to a bad Buffalo Bills team that had won only two games all year. So guess what? The Bills did beat the Jets, the Raiders did lose in week 16, then the Raiders did lose to the Jets, at home, on a 50+ yard field goal as time ran out.
Ok, ok...I know Jets SHOULD have lost. But did them winning really hurt OUR playoff chances. Say they had lost against the Bills and the Dolphins still won. We would still not be Division leaders. And if the Dolphins win next week - they would be playing the Jets for the Division in either case and would definitely have won that game as the Jets would NOT want the PATS to win the Division. Yes - if both the Jets and Phins lost, then that would have benefited us but the Ravens losing was HUGE and more important!
No way. Ravens need to lose again and that will just be a wild card.
To win the division, the Jets and Dolphins each need to lose a game. Each of them.
Had the Jets lost, the Pats would only need a Dolphins loss.
If the Jets beat the Dolphins the last game of the season, the Jets win the division. Had they lost today, the Pats would have won the division. How is that not hurting our playoff chances?
A Patriots loss to the Bills would give the Jets the division title.
You really think the Jets would throw the Miami game knowing they WIN the division with a Patriots loss to the Bills?
I saw the Baltimore Colts throw a game in 1975 to the Patriots. If the Colts won they would have been out of the playoffs. It was so obvious that a rule was put in place the next year about the situation. So yes if the Colts would throw a game the RATS certainly would.
It hurts us no matter how you look at it. The only way it wouldn't is if we win our last 2 and the Jets/Dolphins each lose at least 1 of their last 2.
That's for the Division. Probably time now to concede that we'll need some very lucky breaks to win it and focus instead all of our collective thought waves on Texas Stadium next week to help the resurgent Cowboys beat the Ravens and give us a shot at winning out and taking the Wildcard.
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Not true. The Pats can win out and still miss out of the playoffs. However, they still have multiple ways to get in the playoff pool.
If the Pats do win out:
If either the Jets or Dolphins win out, that team is the division winner by tiebreaker, and the Pats come in second. Both those team have to lose a game (more below).
Indy would have to "lose out" at Jax and hosting Tennessee for the Pats to catch up and take a wildcard spot from them. Not probable.
However, if Baltimore loses at Dallas or hosting Jax, we can get in ahead of them; no competition from the Jets or the Dolphions for this last wildcard spot as one of them HAS to lose to the other in the final game.
If the Pats lose one more game (preferably it would be to Arizona), we could still sneak in, but an awful lot of things would have to go right for that to happen. The chances here are would be very thin I think.
That said, I think it's very realistic that both the Jets and the Dolphins could lose this coming weekend at Seattle and at KC respectively. The Jets just haven't been playing well and were lucky to beat the Bills today, and Seattle played the Pats tough last week; and KC is always tough at home. Now, if ONE of those two circumstances occur, then we would hope that losing team, the Jets or Dolphins, wins their contest in the final week. The Pats would then get the 3rd seed and open at home probably against the Ravens.
If the Pats do sneak in as a 6th seed, they would probably open up at the Jets or Dolphins.
Does anyone remember the improbable series of events that got the Pats the #2 seed and first round bye in 2001? There were two weeks left in the season, and the Pats were fighting the Jets for the division, and well as the Raiders for the #2 seed. They needed the Raiders to lose their last two games to overtake them and the #2 seed, but first they also needed the Jets to lose one of their final two games. However, the Jets were playing the Raiders in the final week of the regular season. So the Jets had to beat the Raiders, which meant they also had to lose, at home, to a bad Buffalo Bills team that had won only two games all year. So guess what? The Bills did beat the Jets, the Raiders did lose in week 16, then the Raiders did lose to the Jets, at home, on a 50+ yard field goal as time ran out.
So strange stuff has happened.
That's a lot to think about. I just boil it down to: after today, we need to get lucky to win the Division, but the Wildcard is ours if we win out and the revitalized Cowboys beat the Ravens next week in the final regular season game at Texas Stadium.
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statisically speaking, the Jets win did hurt us quite a bit, to the point that overall our odds of making the playoffs went up only a little, up to 24.6%:
I like to think that I can hold my own with most statisticians, but that's awfully complicated. How about: the Division is a crapshoot, but the Wildcard is our's if we win out and the Cowboys beat the Ravens next Saturday. I think the Cowboys have a 50% chance of beating the Ravens and I think we have a 50% chance of winning out. Multiply. That's 25% with a lot less math. Much easier on my brain.
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