The Official Cassel vs Brady thread - Per Ian

[swheeler23]

The biggest difference between Brady and Cassel ? Brady makes the players around him better. The players around Cassel make Cassel better.

[Rob0729]

I think the comparison is fair in that Cassel is doing enough to get this team to win the whole thing just like Brady in 2001. Of course the defense isn't holding up their end of the agreement. Granted the 2001 defense started out slow and became a dominant defense the last third of the season and the playoffs.

I do see a lot of Brady in Cassel, but Cassel is deficient in some areas. Neither could throw the long ball their first years as a Pro. So I will give him a pass in that area. Cassel does need to work on his pocket presense and progressions a bit, but those might be gained with experience.

[ctpatsfan77]

Originally Posted by Rob0729

I do see a lot of Brady in Cassel, but Cassel is deficient in some areas. Neither could throw the long ball their first years as a Pro. So I will give him a pass in that area. Cassel does need to work on his pocket presense and progressions a bit, but those might be gained with experience.

He's already come a long way. His sack ratio is down by about 75% versus his first three games.

And, I might add, his TD to Gaffney went over 30 yards through the air (from the shotgun at the 27 to the middle of the end zone).

[Rob0729]

Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

He's already come a long way. His sack ratio is down by about 75% versus his first three games.

And, I might add, his TD to Gaffney went over 30 yards through the air (from the shotgun at the 27 to the middle of the end zone).

I never said that Cassel wasn't progressing, but he still has a lot of work to do. He is a much different QB today than what took the field on September 7th in replacement of Brady.

[Doctor DDS]

I think one of the things everyone is missing is how much the game has changed since 2001. QB stats are up across the baord. The Dink and Dunk offensive strategy has taken hold and with the tougher DB touching receiver standards QB stats will continue to accelerate. A 4,000 yard passing year will soon be no big deal and QB ratings in the 80's are no longer that impressive. With all that said, Cassell has been very impressive and I'm excited. I too love Brady but I love the Pats more and the better MC plays the better the Pats will be. We'll end up trading him for a 2nd and a 5th after he is franchised and our next group of studs will be on the way.

[Box_O_Rocks]

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Now can we just (Please be quiet - edited) and stop the insanity????

Like your anti-Cassel diatribes to start the season?

[Fencer]

Let's consider the difference in talent.

Welker vs. Brown isn't much of a difference.

Otherwise, the receiver corps are close if we DON'T include Moss. Huge difference.

TEs -- well, terribly inconsistent as they are, they aren't WORSE this year.

OL -- experienced Light, Mankins, Koppen vs. rookie Light, Compton or whoever, Woody -- advantage Cassell.

With Neal hurt more than healthy, right side of the line isn't great either year.

RBs as blockers, pass-catchers -- Redmond wasn't bad that year, and Faulk was around, but this year is clearly better

RB as rock-carrier -- just how much better was 2001?

Whoa reformat that stat line its confusing to look at

[ALP]

Originally Posted by Lifer

I keep coming back to 2007. Brady was there. They didnt win the Super Bowl because once again, when it mattered, the defense wasnt good enough.

Now, its 2008. Thomas is gone. Maroney is gone. the OL is beaten up. They would go deep into the AFC playoffs with Brady, but they just arent capable of beating the Giants or Titans.

In any case, Obviously i agree that there chances would be much better with Brady. But Brady doesnt tackle. In 2001,2003, and 2004 we won first with defense aided by great QB play. In 2006 and 2007 they fell short trying it the other way around.

i think this team was built to play the titans...they play right into our strenghts....

i would LOVE to face the titans in the PO's

[Lifer]

Ha!!! I posted this just 7 days ago i got blasted for it.

7 days later, people around here are saying Cassel is an All Pro and maybe we should trade Brady.

Football makes men act and think like women.