The Official 'Trade Brady' Debate Thread - Do Not Start Another One

[tanked_as_usual]

the pats would have a huge cap hit to deal with along with having to pay cassel........it would be more cost effective to just keep them both........

people are looking at this the wrong way.............the bottom line is that if this organization could develop brady, and then develop a turd like cassel into almost looking like brady, then the guy they have next in line (o'connell) could realistically be developed to be better than either.....he is bigger, he is faster, he is stronger than either brady or cassel........his character and charisma is off the charts (think brady without the man-purse) ....... the future lies with o'connell when brady completes the terms of his contract (I just don'e see brady as the kind of guy who is going to drag his career into his late 30's......he could actually retire in 2 years anyway)

this is still what it always has been...........except that it will be interesting to see what the pats actually get for cassel.......since I believe o'connell will be ready to step on the field next year just like brady was in his 2nd year........the bids start at a 3rd round compensatory pick in the 2010 draft

[TheRazor]

Personally, I'd prefer to keep them both Brady and Cassel for 2009.
Matt Cassel has finally convinced me he is worth the backup position.

[ScottieC]

I swear, this is killing me.

He's untradeable (is that even a word?) because he's the best to ever play the position. Period.

[TheRazor]

wow, the other thread says "do not start another one"
do you just talk louder, and over others to be heard?

Ban this clown

*fixed* thanks Ian

[PATS68]

Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

the pats would have a huge cap hit to deal with along with having to pay cassel........it would be more cost effective to just keep them both........

people are looking at this the wrong way.............the bottom line is that if this organization could develop brady, and then develop a turd like cassel into almost looking like brady, then the guy they have next in line (o'connell) could realistically be developed to be better than either.....he is bigger, he is faster, he is stronger than either brady or cassel........his character and charisma is off the charts (think brady without the man-purse) ....... the future lies with o'connell when brady completes the terms of his contract (I just don'e see brady as the kind of guy who is going to drag his career into his late 30's......he could actually retire in 2 years anyway)

this is still what it always has been...........except that it will be interesting to see what the pats actually get for cassel.......since I believe o'connell will be ready to step on the field next year just like brady was in his 2nd year........the bids start at a 3rd round compensatory pick in the 2010 draft

I watched Mort on the pre game and he thinks if the Pats slapped the franchise tag on Cassel, that he would sign it right away. Mort said somewhere in the area of 14 million for 1 season. Mort said Cassel would be smart to sign it becasue he would get every penny of that 14 million.

So I think Cassel walks at the end of the year, unless they work out something behind closed doors. NFLPA would not go for it.

[Dfresh429]

Originally Posted by TheRazor

If Cassel can help THIS TEAM win a SuperBowl in 2008, he will have accomplished something Brady has not helped accomplish in 4 years.

It will be a huge hole in the Tom Brady legend.

I use to say about Adam Vinetieri, that sure he was a great kicker, but our team put him in that position to begin with, would he win that many clutch games with another team, even one just as good as the Patriots.

Tom Brady is a great quarterback, hell maybe the best, but he still is not bigger than his TEAM, no one player will ever be, and if we can take the likes of someone like Matt Cassel and turn him into a superbowl winning quarterback, well.... it just tells me something very clearly

about this TEAM.

Honestly, what are you babbling about...Tom Brady is the best option at QB for this TEAM (see, I can do it too)...

With Moss and Welker:
Cassel is a middle of the pack QB and 7-4 record
Brady breaks records and 16-0 regular season

Do you forget what Brady did with crap offensive weapons? 2006 ring a bell? AFC Championship game, 18 point lead with Reche Caldwell as the #1...do you think that team even sniffs the playoffs with anyone other than Brady?

You talk about Brady like he is some washed-up over the hill has-been. The guy is 30 freaking years old, coming off the best season a QB has ever had...In what fantasy land is he a weaker option for the TEAM than Cassel?

[tanked_as_usual]

it was a 'not trade brady' thread..........it looks like some people around here forgot to take their midol this morning

[Dfresh429]

Originally Posted by TheRazor

If Cassel can help this TEAM win a SuperBowl in 2008, he will have accomplished something Brady has not helped accomplish in 4 years.

I use to say about Adam Vinetieri, that sure he was a great kicker, but our team put him in that position to begin with, would he win that many clutch games with another team, even one just as good as the Patriots.

Tom Brady is a great quarterback, hell maybe the best, but he still is not bigger than his TEAM, no one player will ever be, and if we can take the likes of someone like Matt Cassel and turn him into a superbowl winning quarterback, well.... it just tells me something very clearly

about this TEAM.

Are you implying Brady is a product of the system?

[tanked_as_usual]

Originally Posted by PATS68

I watched Mort on the pre game and he thinks if the Pats slapped the franchise tag on Cassel, that he would sign it right away. Mort said somewhere in the area of 14 million for 1 season. Mort said Cassel would be smart to sign it becasue he would get every penny of that 14 million.

So I think Cassel walks at the end of the year, unless they work out something behind closed doors. NFLPA would not go for it.

so if cassel signs it, does that mean he can't be traded? I think not

NFLPA has bigger fish to fry right now, and their point has no legs to stand on given the uncertain nature of brady's health

[BelichickFan]

Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

so if cassel signs it, does that mean he can't be traded? I think not

Right, he can be traded after signing it.