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Old 11-21-2008, 03:51 PM   #1
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While I think Pees is not responsible for the rash of injuries over the past few seasons I think the team has not been as dominant on defense as it had been in the SB era.

Yes,That includes last season because the defense being so good were actually as a result of our offense being so good in 2007 - The defense was able to focus on the pass most games and were not on the field as often as they are this season thus less time spent for the defense on the field usually equals better performance.

With that being said,Are you happy with the job Pees has done with the players he has been able to keep on the field? and if not would you want Romeo Crennel back if he got fired or maybe even a guy with a very good pedigree as a DC like Marvin Lewis who was in charge of one of the best defenses in NFL history with the Ravens and may very well be fired by the Bengals ..or do you see someone else?

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Old 11-21-2008, 04:01 PM   #2
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I wonder if Pees will survive. It seems that Belichick isn't in love with his work, but who knows. All we have is the limited info we have from what we can see from the outside in, but there are signs of him not being happy. I think the addition of Dom Capers may be that Belichick wanted a veteran defensive coach to help Pees with adjustments, gameplans, etc. The Capers hire was very outside the norm of how Belichick hires coaches.

Also, if you see Belichick on the sidelines when the offense is on the field, he is a lot of the time with his back turned to the field working on a white board with the starting defense. He did that some with Crennel, but I don't remember it being as extensive. I don't know if it is his confidence in McDaniels, not trusting Pees to make in game adjustments, or a little of both.

I could be reading too much into it, but defense has had problems in the red zone and on third downs for several years now. Without Brady, those problems seem to be exposed more. I wonder if it has to do with Pees' coaching. Crennel seemed to be able to hide a lot of deficiencies on defense and have it perform at a top level.
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Interesting thoughts. The great Pats Ds under BB used to improve as the season progressed. Not the case the last couple years. Should this D continue to have the RZ and the 3rd and long problems this season, then I say BB goes in a different direction in 2009. We get to see, Sunday.
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Stats from NFL.com:

Last year's defense was 4th in the NFL, and 4th in 3rd down defense. The 2006 defense was 2nd in the NFL, and 8th in 3rd down defense.

The myths about this team's offenses, defenses and coordinators really need to be exploded.
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Last year's defense was 4th in the NFL, and 4th in 3rd down defense. The 2006 defense was 2nd in the NFL, and 8th in 3rd down defense.

The myths about this team's offenses, defenses and coordinators really need to be exploded.
Again though, our offense masked a lot of the defense's problems in 2007. But, for what it's worth, our defense was the reason we were even in the game during Super Bowl XLII. They played their hearts out. This year's defense is more like Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde.
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Last year's defense was 4th in the NFL, and 4th in 3rd down defense. The 2006 defense was 2nd in the NFL, and 8th in 3rd down defense.

The myths about this team's offenses, defenses and coordinators really need to be exploded.
Last year's stats are deceiving because of the offense. The Pats would get up with a huge lead to make the opposing offenses one dimensional. When the offense slowed down later in the season, the defense was exposed a bit. I was wrong about third down, but their red zone defense was a problem last year.

I agree that 2006 was a good year for the defense. Although the defense wasn't as good as their stats indicated. They were not nearly as dominant as the 2003 team, but they had comprehible stats. Also, the LB corp became a bit of a problem after Seau went down.
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Last year's defense was 4th in the NFL, and 4th in 3rd down defense. The 2006 defense was 2nd in the NFL, and 8th in 3rd down defense.

The myths about this team's offenses, defenses and coordinators really need to be exploded.
What about this year's defense?
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Do you really think last year's offense has much to do with the D's RZ stats? I can't see how.
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BTW, I am not totally down on Pees. I just think the defense hasn't performed as well as the Super Bowl years. I just look at Belichick's actions and wonder if he is enamored with Pees. It could be that he has so much respect for McDaniels' play calling that he feels his efforts are better used on defense when the offense is on the field since he is a defensive genius and couldn't make better decisions than McDaniels does and he hired Capers because he never had a chance to to hire a veteran coach like him as a position coach/consultant. Who knows?
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Oh Romeo, where art thout Romeo?
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