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Old 10-28-2008, 06:24 PM   #31
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Less than perfect officiating hurts the game, and the Rams are doing the right thing by making known any potential errors to the league. One doesn't have to look to far to see games in which we were hurt by bad officiating (last Superbowl, 06 AFC championship against the Colts).
Nobody seems to be arguing it is improper to point out bad calls to officials through appropriate internal grievances. It is coaches or players lamenting the bad calls publicly (at a press conference or leaking a story to the media) that detracts from the game. Those complaints usually are played to the tune of "we would have won the game but for this or that bad call," either expressly or implicitly. And unlike the exception in the Broncos-Bolts game where the ref actually admitted he blew a call, most so called bad calls are arguable.

Any complaints raised in the games you cited received the official statement "right call." You and I may disagree with the official statement, but fans can always complain about blown calls. Fans of opposing teams will point to the Colts "mugging" complaints in 2003 as proof the Patriots get away with calls as well. That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:29 PM   #32
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Nobody seems to be arguing it is improper to point out bad calls to officials through appropriate internal grievances. It is coaches or players lamenting the bad calls publicly that detracts from the game. Those complaints usually are played to the tune of "we would have won the game but for this or that bad call," either expressly or implicitly. And unlike the exception in the Broncos-Bolts game where the ref actually admitted he blew a call, most so called bad calls are arguable.

Any complaints raised in the games you cited received the official statement "right call." You and I may disagree with the official statement, but fans can always complain about blown calls. Fans of opposing teams will point to the Colts "mugging" complaints in 2003 as proof the Patriots get away with calls as well. That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.
Its laughable that this is the "big" story about officiating as the Falcons got screwed by a call that 100% wrong.
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... This sounds like Holmgren after the Super Bowl loss to the Steelers. Cry me a river. ....
Bad example in an otherwise nice commentary. Ben didn't get that TD and I support Seahawks in lamenting about it because officiating at the SB should be at a far higher level especially when it comes to decisions on awarding TDs.
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That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

and what if they are? The only way something is going to get fixed is if attention is called to it. Why is it that during the Superbowl millions of viewers saw the most blatant example of offensive pass interference and everything went along like nothing ever happened? It kinda frustrates me when I see the slightest tap on Manning's helmet result in a penalty but when the Giants sock Brady in the head seconds after he threw the ball we don't hear blip.

At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.
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That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

and what if they are? The only way something is going to get fixed is if attention is called to it. Why is it that during the Superbowl millions of viewers saw the most blatant example of offensive pass interference and everything went along like nothing ever happened? It kinda frustrates me when I see the slightest tap on Manning's helmet result in a penalty but when the Giants sock Brady in the head seconds after he threw the ball we don't hear blip.

At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.
The point is the NFL works through the issues internally, not through the court of public opinion. We as Patriots fans will argue penalties should have been called against the Giants, the Giants fans will argue good call.

For all that goes on at game time, the refs are not terrible. There will be blown calls. That is part of officiating. You just don't want to see blown calls change the outcome of a game.

The answer is put instant replay on everything and increase the number of cameras taping games. Games will take 8 hours to complete with all the reviews, but there will be no mistakes. You also will stand to lose the benefit of calls in the Pats' favor, which you may be surprised to find happens with some frequency. Not every bad call goes against the Pats. The fact is the present system might not be perfect, but it works for the most part and keeps the game moving. I'll take it over the alternative.
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This sounds like Holmgren after the Super Bowl loss to the Steelers.
The difference is Holmgren was right.

And yeah, this is amateur hour, I don't know why we are surprised tho.
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Whats the big deal? The three plays he was talking about were bad on the part of the officials. Maybe the bulger facemask one was too close to call, but the other two Haslett is right. Just sounds like espn making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.
I think your tin-foil hat is on too tight.
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I'm a juventus soccer fan.
this situation remember me past years,before the scandal called soccer-gate(we fans call it farce-gate)...
after a match of juve there were a lot of polemics,tv opened news with tapes...often there were debates at italian parliament...
simply the pats are still considered the best team and they are feared
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