Guregian: Tom Brady suffers setback; Infection leads to two more procedures - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

lostjumper · 10-23-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vyrago

This is usually the hospital's fault and it is inexcusable.

There has been an enormous emphasis on preventing infections after surgery and overwhelmingly the culprit has been failure to follow simple, but effective, safety procedures on the part of hospital personnel.

I work at a Hospital. We have an extremely low MRSA rate because they drill into everyone here how easily rampant infections can become. You are right, usually this is the hospitals fault. They didn't sterilize equipment correctly, or a nurse failed to wash his/her hands before changing a dressing...etc. Many times it comes down to laziness.

I know no one wants to hit the panic button, but this is actually a very serious issue. We over use anti-biotics here in the US, to the point that the infections are now highly resistant to drugs, and now almost immune. If they've gone bak into his knee twice, mostly likely this means he has an infection highly resistant to drugs and they are trying to clean it out. This does not have a good success rate.

On a side note, if I were the pats, I would be absolutely livid with the Hospital that Brady had the procedure done at. I don't think you can just blame the doctors though. They might not be the culprits in this situation.

ursa99 · 10-23-2008, 09:26 AM

The Dr. and his staff are responsible for the dirty environment etc. that caused the infection. If the ESPN article is true then Brady also may have created issues with the club by going his own way and having the surgery on the West Coast.

The key in the article is that he is on IV antibiotics for 6 weeks. Normally that would be only about 3 weeks or less. Must be a stubborn infection and if it's MRSA it could be a real ***** to get rid of. It is very resistant to antibiotics.

"MRSA infection is caused by Staphylococcus aureus bacteria — often called "staph." MRSA stands for methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. It's a strain of staph that's resistant to the broad-spectrum antibiotics commonly used to treat it. MRSA can be fatal."

MRSA infection - MayoClinic.com

Lets hope it's not MRSA.

***fgssand*** · 10-23-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

This is sc ary hopefully it is nothing. My concern with this is so much what will happen if the infection doesn't go away because I am not a DR and I don't know how common some of the things going on are as far as precationary measures. What has me concerned is that it is now 7 weeks after the injury and he seems to be no further along in his recovery. for something that takes a good year to recover from a 7 weeks could be a significant set back as far as week one next year. Hopefully not as there is still alot of time but the more he fights the infection the more the time table gets skewed.

Anyone know if my fears may be pointless? It just occurred to me that the surgically repaired parts could be healing and getting stronger coinciding with fighting the infection and thus the infection may not effect the timetable.

Anyhow this has to freak you out as a Pats fan. I mean if Tommy isnt back next year than we have to go thru this all over again and potentially without California Kid Matt Cassel.

Pessimist says:

He's done and never comes back or:

He is out for 2009 and needs the 2nd reconstruction or:

He is out for 1/2 of 2009 AND

Wedge driven between Brady family and Patriots over the choice.

Optimist says:

relax - only an infection that will be controlled and he is back in Foxboro by 11/15.

Reality says:

We don't know, they prolly don't even know yet - hope for the best and wait it out.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 10-23-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lostjumper

I know no one wants to hit the panic button, but this is actually a very serious issue. We over use anti-biotics here in the US, to the point that the infections are now highly resistant to drugs, and now almost immune. If they've gone bak into his knee twice, mostly likely this means he has an infection highly resistant to drugs and they are trying to clean it out. This does not have a good success rate.

That's the thing, though: we don't have enough information. All we're doing is speculating based on the few shreds of information, which may or may not be correct.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 10-23-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ursa99

The Dr. and his staff are responsible for the dirty environment etc. that caused the infection. If the ESPN article is true then Brady also may have created issues with the club by going his own way and having the surgery on the West Coast.

ESPN wants that to be true. Whether or not it is remains to be seen.

Garbanza · 10-23-2008, 09:34 AM

If still wonder why he would have this done in LA when Boston has some of the best hospitals and doctors in the world. Sucks to be Tom right now.

Bigdogx · 10-23-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

That's the thing, though: we don't have enough information. All we're doing is speculating based on the few shreds of information, which may or may not be correct.

Well it's already starting to get leaked out that the patriots are not happy at all with his continued choice of this surgeon. Really i don't see how it's his choice, the team is the one who has millions of dollars invested into this guy and it should overall be their choice of who does this procedure.

patsgo · 10-23-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Garbanza

If still wonder why he would have this done in LA when Boston has some of the best hospitals and doctors in the world. Sucks to be Tom right now.

yes agreed bad judgement to go to the west coast, have surgery by a no name doctor when the best hospitals, staffs, and doctors are within walking distance from his home, i guess he can throw a good spiral but the common sense is lacking a tad

ursa99 · 10-23-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

ESPN wants that to be true. Whether or not it is remains to be seen.

I agree and that is why I put MAY have created issues. Hopefully all is well on the home front but if I'm BB or RK, I'm at the least annoyed and at the most livid. I do agree that ESPN likes to create stories and run with them till they are either true or run out of gas...

bostonia3333 · 10-23-2008, 09:39 AM

Perhaps John Wallach on WEEI sportsflash is nuts, but he just said Brady had reconstructive ACL surgery on Oct. 6. Since then he has had 3 ADDITIONAL surgeries because of persistent infection to the patellar tendon. If the infection persists, the ACL surgery might have to be performed again, delaying the 2007 MVP's return even further

Anyone hear this? Does that mean Brady had 4 operations already?