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Old 10-18-2008, 09:40 AM   #11
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It is also possible that TB absence from the film room might be hurting the team. Maybe Tom was doing much of the job that should be being done by the OC, because he is a better game planner than the guy getting paid to be an OC.
Interesting speculation. Along those lines I feel that Dante had always run a finesse system, but after years of dominance by Dante's techniques somehow last year opposing DCs finally gamed a methodology specificly designed to thwart that system (Eagles, Ravens Jints) and the Pats have not been able to counter the stronger DLs either straight up the middle inside, or around the ends speedrush. And the around the ends deficiency is exacerbated by poor TE blocking. In retrospect, Dan Graham's blocking was a critical missing piece last season.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:44 PM   #12
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Plus traditionally Monday nights in general haven't been the kindest to the Pats.
I believe that the Pats have won their last 4 Monday night games. So on Monday they will be going for their 5th straight Monday Night Win. I am thinking your memory of Pats being bad on Monday nights is pre-Brady. Then again we are starting Cassel...
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Most games it was an outstanding passo-line last year. But the SB plus the Ravens, Eagles and Colts they looked somewhat suspect. And they were not a great rushing o-line last year.

Part of the decline of the o-line is it sounds like the Patriots didn't just lose their starting QB, but o-line coach as well. One of the criticism of Cassel is he is not as good at directing the o-line. It might be our o-line can't figure out how to block unless the QB tells them how to do their job. That burden should not lie so heavily on the QB but be a greater responsibly of the o-line coach, OC and O-line players themselves.

It is also possible that TB absence from the film room might be hurting the team. Maybe Tom was doing much of the job that should be being done by the OC, because he is a better game planner than the guy getting paid to be an OC.

those are all very good points...one of the things that shanahan observed in his comments at his pregame conference call was how good brady was at going deep into the count to read the defense and pick out the rushers for his blockers...i can remember him doing that...manning does it too...even moving up and down the oline to give assignments until their was one second left on the clock...

and yes...it makes a lot of sense that they would miss him now in the film room....i hadn't thought about that...man, i miss him...i've been defending matt firmly out here, but he's light years away from TB on all the things you observed...
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and yes...it makes a lot of sense that they would miss him now in the film room....i hadn't thought about that...man, i miss him...i've been defending matt firmly out here, but he's light years away from TB on all the things you observed...
But I think the point ought be, not Matt isn't as good as TB. We all know that. The point is TB did a lot of things that most QB aren't expected to do and it is unfair to expect MC to do. Or assume that KO'C would do if he was QB.

If TB is better at picking out the weaknesses of a defense than Josh, we shouldn't blame MC cause he can't game plan. If the O-line got dependent on TB to tell them what they need to do, we shouldn't blame MC for their failings.

Nor were these things that TB could do in 2001. But skills he has developed over time.
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the difference this week for you guys is

even without merriman, sd has a decent passrush

with a now healthy dumervill, denver's passrush is still pretty crappy

(doom being the main threat)

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I believe that the Pats have won their last 4 Monday night games. So on Monday they will be going for their 5th straight Monday Night Win. I am thinking your memory of Pats being bad on Monday nights is pre-Brady. Then again we are starting Cassel...

You'd be thinking wrong. MY thinking was that 07 wasn't 'traditional'. Prior to 07 Monday nights weren't among our best.
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You'd be thinking wrong. MY thinking was that 07 wasn't 'traditional'. Prior to 07 Monday nights weren't among our best.
from wiki, you've been 5-3 on mnf with brady (not counting 07)
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from wiki, you've been 5-3 on mnf with brady (not counting 07)

Yup-not bad but not among the best either,in fact not just a few of the vets said they prefer Sundays at 1. Personally I LOVE MNF or Sundays at 4.
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