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Old 10-13-2008, 04:23 PM   #11
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Well here is a reference that it is not until after the clubs 6th game.

an agent and Fegler column:
Re: 53 man roster as it stands today???
I hear ya, but that's wrong. Dead wrong.

What I posted was from the NFLPA.

Think about it logically, and I'm NOT saying that you are not - But if you have a LATE bye in the season then you have a competitive advantage against a team with a EARLY bye - With regards to players on PUP.

See, Felger is an idiot and he's wrong.
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Well, I called the NFLPA legal department and got shuffled around. Then I ended up getting a voice mail. I wish I could be more definitive with the answer, sorry.
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Well here is a reference that it is not until after the clubs 6th game.

an agent and Fegler column:
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Ahhh HAH!!!

Here is where the confusion comes from - The WIKIPEDIA explanation!!!

Which is wrong as well. Tell Felger to stop using Wikipedia to answer questions and give the appearance of intelligence.

"Physically Unable to Perform is the term for a rule in the National Football League which allows teams to designate players as "Physically Unable to Perform" or "PUP". Once they are designated as such, they are prohibited from practicing with the team. They can, however, rehabilitate and participate in team meetings. If a player begins training camp on the PUP list, they can be moved to the active roster at any time, even after one practice. A player is not allowed to be placed on the PUP list if they start training camp on the active roster.

A player who begins the season on the PUP list must sit out his team's first six games. After that point, the player is allowed to practice with the team through Week 10 of the NFL season, and can be activated any time within that window. If the player is not activated by Week 10, he must stop practicing and is unavailable to be moved to the active roster for the remainder of the season."
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Well, I called the NFLPA legal department and got shuffled around. Then I ended up getting a voice mail. I wish I could be more definitive with the answer, sorry.
Holy crap, Dude - I gave you the NFLPA explanation.

Whatever.
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I hear ya, but that's wrong. Dead wrong.

What I posted was from the NFLPA.

Think about it logically, and I'm NOT saying that you are not - But if you have a LATE bye in the season then you have a competitive advantage against a team with a EARLY bye - With regards to players on PUP.

See, Felger is an idiot and he's wrong.
Not sure about the competitive advantage.

If a team only has to do without a player for 5 weeks instead of 6
that is not a disadvantage.

By making the rule mean after the teams 6th regular season game then
all teams would have to do without their PUP players for at least 6 games
NO MATTER when their bye week was. That's also logical!

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Holy crap, Dude - I gave you the NFLPA explanation.

Whatever.
Why on earth would you jump on me about this?
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* PUP list: Physically Unable to Perform -
this List designates players with serious injuries that will keep them from being able to start a season on the 53-man protected list but may be able to return to the roster during the regular season. The players must be placed on this roster at or before the league-wide 65-man summer roster cutdown to be eligible for this designation, and they must stay on this list for at least the first six weeks of the regular season. After this time teams have 3 weeks to evaluate such players after which each such player must be placed on the 53-man roster, season-ending Injured Reserve (IR) or waivers.
but .... the phrase
"first six weeks of the regular season"
may have been clarified to mean the teams 6 regular season weeks
which a bye week is not part of.
Need to see all NFL references to this rule
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Not sure about the competitive advantage.

If a team only has to do without a player for 5 weeks instead of 6
that is not a disadvantage.

By making the rule mean after the teams 6th regular season game then
all teams would have to do with their PUP players for at least 6 games
NO MATTER when their bye week was. That's also logical!
Eh?

Let me try and explain this very easily.

Under Felger's rule, we get Neil Back AFTER next weeks game - in the 7th week.

Whereas any team with a bye AFTER week 6 gets him back THIS week.

See?

Try this story out.

Jurevicius placed on PUP, will miss first six weeks of season

Their Bye was the 5th week.
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Why on earth would you jump on me about this?
I'm not.
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Eh?

Let me try and explain this very easily.

Under Felger's rule, we get Neil Back AFTER next weeks game - in the 7th week.

Whereas any team with a bye AFTER week 6 gets him back THIS week.

See?

Try this story out.

Jurevicius placed on PUP, will miss first six weeks of season

Their Bye was the 5th week.
There are enough references to show there exist confusion about this.
Not saying you are wrong but proof is in the pudding as they say.

Rather than a two moth old article show me an article tomorrow about
Jurevicius being actived off PUP. Or better yet, one of PATs pup guys
now practicing. At least one should be if you are right.

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