Is a Cassel led Pats offense capable of scoring more than 21 points? - New England Patriots Forums

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 09-24-2008, 11:36 AM

Don't get mad,Its a simple question.

The defense creating several turnovers or pix sixes is not included in whether the team scores more than 21 - Its solely based on the offense so no help from the defense when deciding your answer.

Is the OFFENSE under Cassel capable of putting more than 21 on the board?

***Rob0729*** · 09-24-2008, 11:39 AM

I think in a few more games, McDaniels and Belichick will open up the offense a bit more. I think they are doing somewhat what the Colts did with Manning his rookie season, keeping him on short leash and not let him air out the ball until he is more comfortable with the offense. No, I don't think Cassel is anywhere near as good as Manning, but it is the same strategy.

So yes, I think they are capable of it.

JoePats · 09-24-2008, 11:42 AM

Once they open it up a bit more, and that is tied in with the offensive line improving, the answer is yes.

***KontradictioN*** · 09-24-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JoePats

Once they open it up a bit more, and that is tied in with the offensive line improving, the answer is yes.

That answer was right up my alley.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 09-24-2008, 11:48 AM

In order for this team to score more than 21 without the defense helping out are 2 specific areas which need focusing...

Randy Moss and Welker may want to just forgo the long routes and catch 5 or 10 yard outs and do something after the catch and the OL needs to open up gaping holes and protect Cassel as well - Easier said than done but if these guys play with more intensity its possible.

The offense to score more than 21 is not based solely on the performance of Cassel but those around him who need to make better adjustments post-Brady and deal with the extremely raw QB they have in charge now.

IMO There will be VERY few long bombs in games this year if Cassel is to remain the #1 QB and a controlled boring offense is probably the only way this team makes the playoffs.

ayjackson · 09-24-2008, 11:49 AM

I said yes, but Hobbs should probably spot them field goal range seven times per game.

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 09-24-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

In order for this team to score more than 21 without the defense helping out are 2 specific areas which need focusing...

Randy Moss and Welker may want to just forgo the long routes and catch 5 or 10 yard outs and do something after the catch and the OL needs to open up gaping holes and protect Cassel as well - Easier said than done but if these guys play with more intensity its possible.

The offense to score more than 21 is not based solely on the performance of Cassel but those around him who need to make better adjustments post-Brady and deal with the extremely raw QB they have in charge now.

IMO There will be VERY few long bombs in games this year if Cassel is to remain the #1 QB and a controlled boring offense is probably the only way this team makes the playoffs.

So, you hated 2001?

***KontradictioN*** · 09-24-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

IMO There will be VERY few long bombs in games this year if Cassel is to remain the #1 QB and a controlled boring offense is probably the only way this team makes the playoffs.

I don't care who you are, EVERYONE said that before week 2. People can come in and deny it. But in denying it, they are freely admitting that they expected Cassel to complete bomb after bomb ala Brady '07 and win games for this team. So if they deny it, in a sense, they are completely retarded. But now that we've lost one game, most ignore the fact that the defense sucked, our offensive line was equally bad, and the running game was non-existant. Now people are sitting back expecting a career back-up that hadn't started a game since high school to overcome all of that and actually put up more than 38 points? I'm sorry, but I don't see where that logic comes from.

chris_in_sunnyvale · 09-24-2008, 11:54 AM

Yes...but he'll need help from the running game. Get teams to respect the running game and that will open play-action deep to Moss...think Steelers game last year.

Regards,
Chris

JR4 · 09-24-2008, 11:59 AM

"Is a Cassel led Pats offense capable of scoring more than 21 points?"

Of course he can at least once .. maybe you meant
"Is a Cassel led Pats offense capable of scoring more than 21 points most of the time against defenses not in the top 10?"
or something like that.