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***MoLewisrocks*** · 09-12-2008, 09:03 AM

Yup, this is why Belichick advised his young protogee to thank them for their interest and wait for a better shot to be a HC. The JETS can not stay a course. The need to win the battle for the back page of the post is just too alluring.

They now have no plan for the future, just an attention grabbing hope for the present. I heard or read somewhere this week that the huddle was a hoot in last week's game. Brett wasn't calling the same plays the coaches were relaying in, he was running his offense... That last TD was classic. Tie game with almost 7 minutes to go in the first half and Favre's rationale for making that throw was why not just put it up there... But what do you do when it ultimately won the game? Quit wasting time game planning? Welcome to Mike McCarthy's world, Eric. If your team wins now it's all credit to Brett. If they lose your just another chump in a long list of JETS HC's who rolled the dice to win now and ended up creating a bigger mess for the next poor dope who takes his shot to dig out from under.

If Mangini didn't have an ulcer after last season, he certainly will after this one... And then we'll have the drama of the off season as Favre decides whether or not he still wants to play for a lame duck or new HC...

Not sure whose "grooming" Ratliff... But good luck to him running Brett's offense in 2010...or whichever one the new OC and the new HC who didn't draft him installs.

***Frezo*** · 09-12-2008, 09:40 AM

Would it surprise anyone that if things start going south for the Jets that Favre would retire at any point in the next two seasons?

fair catch fryar · 09-12-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryfromTO

the Jets learned their management style from the Toronto Maple Leafs. To hell with the future, just fill those seats

That can be said about the Bruins as well! Thanks Jeremy...you POS!!

***Deus Irae*** · 09-12-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BelizePats

This is exactly why I loved the trade so much in the first place. The Jets are stunting their long term growth by bringing in Farve for 2 years. Obviously, Clemons is not the answer for them or they would not have brought in Farve and once Farve is done, they will be forced to look for a new QB in the draft (because how many franchise QB's come on the free agent market? Drew Brees is the exceotion rather than the rule) ) and that will take sevral years to develop with no guarentee that the QB they select will ever pan out.
And in making this trade, the Rats have sealed Mangidiots fate. He cannot survive this long term, not in a market like New York. He will be gone in two years max and just as likely fired at the end of this year after a 7-9 season.
Now if we can only convince Dave Wannstadt to come back to coach the Dolphins!!

Clemens isn't the answer, or isn't ready, so what's the harm in bringing in a better QB? Much of the New England fan base was calling for the same thing to happen here, albeit for the backup QB position, in case Brady got hurt.

JoeSixPat · 09-12-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by captadamnj

It's not about the future of the franchise, it's about management wanting to fill seats and sell jerseys (i.e. - increase revenues) and the coaching staff trying to save their jobs...THIS YEAR.

Right - if the Jets didn't win this year while the Pats where in the midst of another monster year, there might be a chance MangIdiot would keep his job.

Now, there's no excuse. If MangIdiot can't win now, he'll never win. I don't think he needs to win the Super Bowl, but if he fails to make the playoffs, he's gone - and that's the end of his head coaching career, with it being doubtful that any organization will invite him in to snitch on them even in a coordinator or assistant role.

aluminum seats · 09-12-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangold74

Yes, we sealed Mangidiots fate by making a drastic upgrade at qb. I doubt any realistic Jets fan expects with or without Farve for the Jets to win the superbowl this year. The bottom line is that the Jets have done a very good job rebuilding by drafting well (Revis, Harris, Mangold, Brick, Smith, Leon, Stuckey, Lowery, Keller, Gholston), coaching up players from the previous regime (Rhodes, Cotchery, Moore, Barton, Baker, Thomas) and free agents/trades to fill holes on the lines (Faneca, Jenkins, Pace and Woody).

Farve gives the Jets a much better chance to be good this year and next then Pennington or Clemens. I doubt they will drafting any quaterbacks next year. Brett Ratliff is being groomed to be the next quaterback.

Are the jets as good as the Pats? Not at all. Are the Jets drastically improved in 3 off seasons? yes.

The Jets are "drastically improved?" How many games did the Jets win last year? I'd wait a little bit before making sweeping statements like that. Wishing something doesn't make it so.

JSn · 09-12-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aluminum seats

The Jets are "drastically improved?" How many games did the Jets win last year? I'd wait a little bit before making sweeping statements like that. Wishing something doesn't make it so.

On paper. And on paper we're... well frankly, no-one knows WHERE we are. Brady-less. But you can't subtract him from the equation and call the remainder what we are. We're plugging something of an unknown into his spot. We may not be able to do this math until we take the field with the colts.

So they're improved on paper. I think it's a much smaller improvement than they think. Almost getting edged out by the Dolphins... bad news.

MrTibbs · 09-12-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by aluminum seats

The Jets are "drastically improved?" How many games did the Jets win last year? I'd wait a little bit before making sweeping statements like that. Wishing something doesn't make it so.

You beat me to it. They barely beat the worst team i football last season WITH ALL THEIR STARTERS. He'd better take the wait and see approach. I only see the Jets being 4-5 games better then they were last year. As a Jets fan that's "drastic" you gotta remember that, LMAO!

Mangold74 · 09-12-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by aluminum seats

The Jets are "drastically improved?" How many games did the Jets win last year? I'd wait a little bit before making sweeping statements like that. Wishing something doesn't make it so.

They were a horrible team last year due to the fact that they had no left guard, right tackle or nose tackle. If you can't see that they upgraded this team in 3 offseasons from what they were then your blind.

BelizePats · 09-12-2008, 10:35 AM

Mangold74,

While I hate your team and its HC with every ounce of energy that I posses, I will grant you that the drafting that the Jets have done the last 3 years has been excellent. It kills me to say it but it is true.