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Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
I've noted many of the roster predictions here, and additional comments where folks seem to rule out the notion of us going with only 2 QBs on the roster and I'm not sure why
Given all the bubble players out there who have done everything they can to earn a roster spot - be they veterans who can still contribute or young up and coming players who we'd likely love to find some way to retain, can someone explain to me why a third string QB should take that player's place?
I'm thinking of guys like CJ Jones, Matt Slater, Vince Redd, Gary Guyton - even Larry Izzo who could be on the bubble though I hope he's not. And that's not even getting into whether the team wants to keep 5 RBs instead of just 4.
Do folks really think keeping Cassell or Guttierez is that critical? I just don't see it - if either player were cut today I think there's every chance both would still be available to be signed if Brady did suffer an injury and we needed a new backup. Although I know O'Connell largely played against 2nd and 3rd stringers at best, I think he still showed that he's as good as either of them and has much more upside (aside from being a 3rd round pick who isn't going anywhere this year) and of course he actually has more real game experience than Cassell.
So why are so many fans discounting going with 2 QBs - especially given the fact that Belichick has already set the precedent and done so before? Is it simply the prospect of losing 2 QBs in one game?
I'm not getting it. (That being said, if BB keeps three, I absolutely trust his reasoning! )
Last edited by JoeSixPat; 08-30-2008 at 07:11 AM..
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Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
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Originally Posted by JoeSixPat
I've noted many of the roster predictions here, and additional comments where folks seem to rule out the notion of us going with only 2 QBs on the roster and I'm not sure why
Given all the bubble players out there who have done everything they can to earn a roster spot - be they veterans who can still contribute or young up and coming players who we'd likely love to find some way to retain, can someone explain to me why a third string QB should take that player's place?
I'm thinking of guys like CJ Jones, Matt Slater, Vince Redd, Gary Guyton - even Larry Izzo who could be on the bubble though I hope he's not. And that's not even getting into whether the team wants to keep 5 RBs instead of just 4.
Do folks really think keeping Cassell or Guttierez is that critical? I just don't see it - if either player were cut today I think there's every chance both would still be available to be signed if Brady did suffer an injury and we needed a new backup. Although I know O'Connell largely played against 2nd and 3rd stringers at best, I think he still showed that he's as good as either of them and has much more upside (aside from being a 3rd round pick who isn't going anywhere this year) and of course he actually has more real game experience than Cassell.
So why are so many fans discounting going with 2 QBs - especially given the fact that Belichick has already set the precedent and done so before? Is it simply the prospect of losing 2 QBs in one game?
I'm not getting it. (That being said, if BB keeps three, I absolutely trust his reasoning! )
I've thought that as well. It just seems that losing one of Slater, Redd, or Guyton would be more of a loss than losing Guttierez or Cassel. However I also understand the risk that the Pats would be taking by moving this way. With Brady's injury history over his entire career, I say take the risk - these young defensive guys certainly could be the future sitting right in the team's hands.
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Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
We all know O'Connell will remain on the roster but he is only a rookie and the best a rookie can do on this team is be third string.
If there were 3 veterans on the team prior to this year and not drafting a QB then having only 2 might have been possible but with a rookie in the mix you need a guy in between
Hopefully that #2 is not a pathetic waste as Cassel is at this point
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Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
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We all know O'Connell will remain on the roster but he is only a rookie and the best a rookie can do on this team is be third string.
And BB never drafts linebackers in the first three rounds.
My point is this--if BB thinks it's in the team's best interests to have only 12 and O'Connell on the roster, that's what he'll do. I'd put the odds at <5%, but not zero.
I also think, BTW, that Slater is not on the bubble; he hasn't looked clueless at all. [Remember, last year was an aberration, and should not be looked at as a model for how cutdowns will go this year. ]
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Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
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O'Connell being a rookie is the main reason. Now the defenses stop being vanilla.
Routinely being able to stash a 3rd QB on the game-day inactve list is another.
Brady's injury is a third reason.
The questionable O-line health is a fourth.
The investments both in O'Connell (3 round pick) and Cassell (3years of grooming) is a 5th reason.
the problem is o'connell. He showed some promise but is not ready to be a #2. He probably at this point can only run 50% of the playbook. Even if they wack goots and cassell they would have to bring in a vet to be #2. Either way its 3 QB's this year
Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
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the problem is o'connell. He showed some promise but is not ready to be a #2. He probably at this point can only run 50% of the playbook. Even if they wack goots and cassell they would have to bring in a vet to be #2. Either way its 3 QB's this year
Any quarterback who replaced Brady would only run 50% of the
Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
Unless they IR O'Connell, there is next to no shot at only two QBs on the roster. If O'Connell isn't IRed, there is a better chance the Pats go with 4 QBs than 2 QBs.
I can't see there being any way that Belichick would go with only Brady and O'Connell. Maybe next year.
O'Connell has a lot of raw talent, but he still needs to work on his mechanics and fundamentals a bit. He isn't ready to be a #2 QB.
Re: Why do so many PatsFans rule out us going with 2 QBs?
Too risky. Chance of losing a game that could be managed to a W.
Stashing the cut QBs on the shadow roster they might still be available, but it forces BB to play O'C if Brady gets injured during a game. The 2008 O'C is too raw to 'manage' a game. One of the other 2 would give a better chance of success in managing a D inspired W.
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