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Uncle Rico

Lots of standard stuff on there, but this caught my eye:

I know the idea has been discussed here, but i interesting that Bedard see it as inevitable. Have to think having Hoyer and Cassel available helps.

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Sciz

Interesting that he includes DE in the positions the Pats would target, but doesn't mention safety.

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manxman2601

This caught my eye.


Assuming this is the case, what does that leave in terms of the draft? Safety, a future Wilfork replacement? Luxury picks like Lattimore?

Admittedly the shortage of WR and CB on the current roster doesn't preclude them still being a need come draft day, even if they are part of FA.

Edit: Forgot Right Tackle.

GoWhalers

I don't really see the logic in trading Mallett, especially in a weak QB class.

1) Mallett hasn't played enough to show high value to another team. Please spare me the "Hoyer was worth a 2nd rounder" nonsense. We're not getting a 4th rounder for Mallett as it would stand today.

2) Brady might *gasp* actually get hurt during a season, and we may actually need an experienced backup to step in and carry the team forward. Just because Cassell did OK filling in -- and it was just OK against a weak schedule -- doesn't mean we should assume we've got a Dante at QB coach and can plug in any old tomato can.

3) Who else are we going to replace Mallett with? And what are we going to get in return to make it worth losing Mallett?

In my mind, if Mallett can give the Patriots a shot at winning games, then keep him right where he is until his contract wraps up. If he doesn't want to re-sign at the end, then try to trade for anything or let him loose like Hoyer. If Mallett can't help the Patriots, then we should cut our losses anyways.

PatsWickedPissah

Replace Mallett with Cassel or Hoyer, both available

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grux

Rumor has it that Cassel is going to be released and Alex Smith is going to the Cheifs. I could see Mike Lombardi (Cleveland) giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Mallett. Cassel needs to regroup after getting the crap beat out of him in Kansas City (IMO, due to a poor offensive line). Also, I think Josh could help get Cassel's confidence back.

DaBruinz

First, Hoyer was never worth a 2nd rounder. Cassel was worth a 1st and they got that equivalent with the Cap Savings and the 2nd round pick that they traded to KC.

The problem with your thinking is that Mallett was already better than any of the QBs in this year's draft class when he was drafted. He's got two years under him on one of the best teams in the league so his learning the speed of the game won't be the same as it will be with any of the rookies QBs you draft. Also, it should be noted that there was less footage on Brett Favre than there is on Mallett.

That is why people are mentioning Cassel and Hoyer coming back. And Cassel did more than OK. He did damn well. How else do you think that the Pats were able to get a 2nd rounder for him. Not for his good looks, that's for sure. Also, McDaniels was Cassel's QB coach when Cassel was the starting QB in 2008.

There is a guy by the name of Mike Kafka that the Pats signed to a future's contract. Kafka actually has experience in the league with the Eagles. He was let go by them because of their situation with Nick Foles and Michael Vick.

So, in your mind, they should not bother trying to get anything for him before his contract is up at the end of 2014. Nor should they try and put him on a team where he might be able to reach or exceed his potential by getting starting reps. You've never heard of buy low and sell HIGH have you?

BTW, once Mallett's contract is up, he can't be traded unless the Pats put the franchise tag on him.

DaBruinz

Don't be so sure about Mallett to Cleveland. Their new OC likes the WCO. Something that Mallett would not be effective in.

IF the Pats are going to trade Mallett, they need to do it before Alex Smith is traded so that trade doesn't set the market value. The problem, currently, is that, besides Alex Smith, Nick Foles is supposedly on the trading block. Personally, I'd try and send Mallett to Arizona, Oakland, or Buffalo, though Buffalo might still be smarting from having traded a 1st for Bledsoe.

I do agree with you that Cassel needs time to rebuild his psyche and that Josh and Tom should be able to do that since Cassel excelled under Josh in 2008.

kurtinelson

Says who? If you were a GM what would you rather do - gamble a first on Gino Smith or a 2nd 3rd or 4th rounder on Mallet who is a better prospect and has had 2 years of NFL coaching?

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