AndyJohnson

So making up that you think we will replace half of the production with no basis is reason to celebrate? The other half is what makes the offense good.

AndyJohnson

What? You think Edelman is going to catch 115 passes?
What were you drinkiing when you thought this one up?

Ivan

Name the player they can get who is going to replace it? After suggesting that Edelman is going to catch 100 balls i"m really tempted just to put you on ignore but i will wait and see who you come up with first.

Deus Irae

Because, other than the short yardage specialist, all "running" running backs are trying to accomplish the same thing: maximize yards per carry, minimize turnovers, move the chains.

Wide receivers, on the other hand, come with several different specialties and goals. The two most often discussed are "possession receiver" and "deep threat" but, as BB stated, "slot receiver" is a speciality of its own and is almost a completely different position. What you're basically arguing for is a YPC approach to rankings and compensation, for all receivers.

Wisely, teams don't follow that advice.

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Ivan

Vincent Jackson plays a different role than Welker does, and while i agree they need a deep threat that in no way means they should throw away the most productive receiver in football for the past 5 years. The answer is to re-sign Welker and add a deep threat or 2 in the draft and free agency. The Patriots get worse if the let Welker walk, period, there is no way to be as good without him.

Ivan

No kidding? And with Welker the Patriots have had 2 of the 3 most productive offenses in NFL history. And since he came to NE they have had the most productive offense in NFL history over that span. Take the 5 seasons Brady has played with him and find any team that has scored more points over a 5 year span? It can't be done.

PatsWickedPissah

It won 3 for the Patriots

Before you started following football?

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Ivan

So name the team that has put up more yards and points than the Patriots have with Welker?


C'mon now, you are the one who set the criteria, let's see you come up with the answer.

Helmet2Helmet

Too bad none of that has carried over to the playoffs with Welker in the playoffs. Time for Brady to suck it up and get on without his best friend, vacation buddy Wes the 'BM' Welker.

I mean seriously, Brady already has enough weapons on offense to win. Gronkowski, Hernandez, Ridley, Vereen, and one of the league's better offensive lines.

Time to say, "cya" to the overrated and limited Welker and shore up the defense so we actually have a chance in the playoffs when the offense stutters with all their millions locked up in a QB, 2 TEs, G, etc..

Welker has had enough chances to help this team to win a superbowl. As an, "elite" receiver as everyone claims, he hasn't been able to do it. Choked up twice, time to move on.

Deus Irae

Well, now, it depends on just how "possession" you want to get, and you choose to ignore that the Welker-style slot WR as a major weapon is mostly a new development to the game.

EVERY team is out there using valuable resources to find the next Wes Welker, including the New England Patriots.

So you're home on spring vacation: High school or middle school? Given NE Patriots history and the likelihood that your mother wouldn't let you post this way if you were still in elementary school, that's the only thing that makes any sense.

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