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Old 02-18-2013, 07:37 PM   #101
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Anyone think that if they didn't lock up hernandez they would have locked up welker?
I think this is an over looked reason as to why Welker hasn't been signed. He had been a productive player before Gronk & Hernandez were even on the team. Then the Pats lock up Gronk & Hernandez and franchise Welker. Welker would never say it publicly but he must have been pissed when he didn't receive a long term contract. IMO, when they locked up the tight ends the Pats priority wasn't keeping Wes long term. There is no way Wes is signing a two year 8 million dollar deal (Nor should he). So, the Pats franchised him last year at a fair deal and got another productive year from their top receiver. Now the franchise tag is to much so they will probably let him test the market. I can easily see a team offering Wes a long term deal in the area of 9-10 Mill a year. Maybe the Pats offer him a similar contract and keep him. Personally I think they are going to let him walk.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:42 PM   #102
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They made a smart decision locking up Aaron instead of the Butterfingers Midget.
"...the Butterfingers Midget." It's difficult to believe that it's actually sunk to this level.
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"...the Butterfingers Midget." It's difficult to believe that it's actually sunk to this level.
Haha, that's only the censored version. If anyone wants to hear my real opinion of Welker just send me a PM. With that, ill leave the topic because I know a lot of fans are obsessed with him.
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I agree that there are limits.

But I also think that if the 2013 Pats had Calvin Johnson, they would not have the offensive breakdown in the playoffs they've had in their last three playoff losses.

So I don't know, maybe he would be worth HUGE cap dollars.

Because make no mistake, the Pats lost to the Giants and Ravens because, more than anything else, their high powered offense failed them.

No doubt, a healthy Gronk changes a lot against the Giants and Ravens. But still, I see Johnson, or someone else remotely like him, as a big difference maker.

And no doubt, Welker will be very hard to replace.

Anyone who views this discussion -- on any side -- as totally black and white is...dreaming.
The Patriots finished up the season $5.6M under the cap. After freeing up $7.2M in cap space by restructuring Brady's deal which has left them just $15M under the cap heading into 2013 with holes to fill (not counting Welker) at CB x 2, RG, and a half dozen or so veteran depth players who are also UFA. Explain to me what you would do to accommodate the cap hits that come with a player of CJ's ilk, and which draft picks you'd have foregone to acquire same...

I have a feeling that if we had CJ the defensive breakdown would have been far greater than what we experienced with Jones and Talib and Love sidelined. Probably more along the lines of epic, including one and done.

The team could use someone "remotely" like him, but not as a replacement for Welker. In addition to Welker and Gronkowski and Hernandez (and because you need insurance in case someone can't answer the bell come playoff time). Perhaps in place of Lloyd. Someone like Boldin immediately comes to mind, but Bill passed on a chance at signing him 3 years ago. The price was 4 years at $7M (less than half of CJ's deal) plus a third and fourth with a fifth coming back. If that was to rich for Belichick's blood, there is no way he'd ever trade for a player - let alone a WR - at more than twice that price in contract and draft compensation.

Could have had Boldin for 4 years for just $10M more than they will have paid for 3 years of Lloyd and one year of Ocho. And a third and fourth with a fifth back instead of a fifth and a sixth...so we had the fourth to trade for a rent a corner... Just keep that in mind when you ponder what if trade or if only scenarios.
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Haha, that's only the censored version. If anyone wants to hear my real opinion of Welker just send me a PM. With that, ill leave the topic because I know a lot of fans are obsessed with him.
I don't really understand the hate, unless you are a Fins/Jets fan or once passionately stalked Anna Burns.
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Not everyone has Tom Brady to help them do it with. And the point of my post was not to say that coming up with 120 will be easy but it was more to say that almost by default in having Tom we can easily replace half of it with any JAG at WR a la Caldwell.
How is replacing half of the production of your top WR a good thing?
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Haha, that's only the censored version. If anyone wants to hear my real opinion of Welker just send me a PM. With that, ill leave the topic because I know a lot of fans are obsessed with him.
I'm betting no one wants to hear it.
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Just using the sample that ended the Pats playoffs each year.
And how many games did the Ravens score fewer than 13? The Pats might have outscored them in that game. Might have
Yes, you're cherrypicking losses and noting that the team didn't play as well in losses as it did in wins. That's not exactly news.

As for points, I've been over that about a thousand times, and you've seen the info. You're just trolling, because you know your points have been dealt with time and again.
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I don't really understand the hate, unless you are a Fins/Jets fan or once passionately stalked Anna Burns.
Former member who got banned and has done an end run around the banning, I believe.
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