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I've read a lot of scouts are comparing Tavon Austin to Percy Harvin from a physical ability pov so I did some digging.

This is it in a nutshell...Tavon Austin is strong for his size but Harvin is strong for any size. Percy Harvin benches 405 lbs and squats 500 lbs. Harvin is a freak of nature. I'm not dissing Austin. I'd love him on the Pats but Harvin is in another league. Incredible.

Comparing Harvin to Austin is like comparing a Dodge Daytona to a Honda CRX.

DocHoliday

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fleabassist1

Trade Welker for Harvin!

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Ivan

Why.........?


My bad, it's to get a less productive player at 3x the cost. Don't know why i hadn't figured that out beforehand.

fleabassist1

Percy is faster and taller then Welker. Welker was not quite the same with the Fish and benefits greatly from a system that Percy would fill wonderfully. His gripe is more about his role then it is money, so getting him at a comparable cost to welker is realistic seeing as how Welker is demanding over 20$ million.

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Ivan

Wes Welker is a better player, more productive, more durable, more reliable, and Harvin wants 125 million.

Ivan

So is Chad jackson, another brilliant argument to get rid of Welker, taller and faster................

VJCPatriot

Paying a 2nd round pick for Harvin's talent is fine. I don't have a problem with compensation. The problem is that Harvin will likely demand a 10m per year contract. And we are just not going to give him that money. Particuarly if we won't give Welker that kind of money either.

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supafly

Not meaning to disrespect fleabassist1 in any form or manner, but this is a prime example of the popular misconception that "Welker is demanding big money," when that isn't true at all.

Welker wants to be paid something fair and reasonable for his production and durability, but it isn't even a fraction of what the top tier (or up and coming younger players at WR) are demanding.

We have guys like Mike Wallace who haven't really done much of anything in comparison to Welker, and they are demanding to be paid pacts of 12 million aav with guarantees in the 40's/50's.

Percy Harvin is reportedly one of these guys. While he is young and talented, I doubt that Belichick would even think twice about a gamble like this. The fact that it would cost a high draft pick or picks make the point even less likely.

Belichick is the kind of guy that will go out and take advantage of the Reggie Wayne's of the world, guys who are smart, experienced, and can still produce at a level that is somewhat comparable to the elite WR's. More importantly, guys who take up a small fraction of what these WR's are going for.

Unfortunately there are still going to be holes on the team every year, so he'll just have to do the best he can trying to address those issues while looking towards the bigger picture. Hopefully we can see the position improved, although I have my doubts if Welker is not brought back again.

The draft and lower cost WR's will likely be the answer, not these expensive options that may/may not work out that cost insane amounts of money.

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supafly

Thanks for doing the legwork for a comparison. I was wondering about T.Austin more myself.

One thing to keep in mind though is that it pretty much comes down to this comparison:

--A more talented Percy Harvin with better strength and measurables, but will cost upwards of 11-12 million aav and lots of guarantees

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--A less talented Tavon Austin who may not be anything more than a good young pickup BUT comes on an extremely cheap rookie pact

Much like everything in life, it's all about the overall value. It's also this reasoning that cracks me up when I read about "how much Belichick liked Harvin coming out of school," and that's why the rumors are even more likely to happen.

The truth was that Harvin was coming out of school on a cheap rookie deal, and Belichick probably did see a ton of potential talent in him, but as the specifics have now changed so likely have BB's thinking in acquiring him. My guess is that he'll go with the "next" Percy Harvin who is cheap and affordable, or at least someone who can do some of the things that he can do.

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