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Old 02-11-2013, 01:08 AM   #101
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We're all going to have our personal opinions on these kinds of players and rarely agree. When we do it often seems to be a too good to be true scenario and doesn't work out. That said, I'd personally much rather have V.Cruz than Mike Wallace. I think your comments about Cruz pertain a lot more to Wallace about dropping passes etc. I also think that Cruz has a better work ethic and attitude than Wallace.

To me, I'd even rather have Jennings than Wallace. By all accounts Jennings at least seems to run smarter routes and may have better hands, even if he's turning 30. We could potentially still get another 4 solid yrs out of him. Wallace just scares me and seems like an awfully big gamble.



I agree about Cruz. I'd have a hard time imagining him as a bust or not producing enough here. There's something about his work ethic that impresses me, maybe due to the UDFA label. Either way, he's a quality WR with a bright future. I'm doubting that he ever leaves the NYG though.

One thing I'd disagree with is the comment "no matter the price."

I think this team is always going to have one eye on the future while fielding their best shot at the highest form of competition now. We should thank them too, because if they didn't we'd likely be battling to even get into the playoffs every year due to poor financial decisions made in the mid 2000's.

I trust Belichick's approach, and even though WR seems to be a weak point at the moment, I assume that he will certainly address it as well as possible.
giving up a 1st for Cruz is a terrible decision, no matter how you look at it. and i never said anything about wallace. there is really no FA WR that interests me beyond maybe a (relatively) cheap Hartline, and a (should be, but might not be) cheap Alexander. anything else should be gotten in the draft...of which there are plenty of solid day 2/3 prospects.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:16 AM   #102
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giving up a 1st for Cruz is a terrible decision, no matter how you look at it. and i never said anything about wallace. there is really no FA WR that interests me beyond maybe a (relatively) cheap Hartline, and a (should be, but might not be) cheap Alexander. anything else should be gotten in the draft...of which there are plenty of solid day 2/3 prospects.
I didn't mean to infer that you specifically mentioned Wallace, I was just comparing the two players since there seem to be so many who do want him.

The Cruz issue is a hard one, but one of the pros is that he's pretty much a surefire star even for a first. That would be just one of the arguments. I doubt that Belichick would ever do it anyway to be honest, but if he did I would trust the decision due to the talent and upside of the player.

I hear what you're saying via the draft. Personally I hope that they take a high round draft pick, an exciting playmaker that many talk about to come in and make an immediate impact. I'd also like to go your day 2/day 3 route and double up much like they've done with TE, RB, and front seven recently. That increases our chances even more at actually hitting on the position for the future at a cheap rate.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:21 AM   #103
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I agree I wanted them to do 3 years 24 million last year, but that didn't end up happening. There were reports that they offered 2 years 16 million fully guaranteed contract that's a pretty nice deal in terms of guarantees but the nature of the years was probably an issue.

I just feel like if a 3 year deal was not offered last year why would it be offered this year?
That's the million dollar question that no one really knows the answer to, and the one point that makes me very leery about Welker's future here.

It makes me wonder if they didn't go all in for one last crack at things last season, especially with the high price of that tag. At first glance it certainly doesn't appear to be a move made for the future.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:05 AM   #104
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Bedard's column is a joke.

WR - Cribbs, Ebert, Edelman, Ebert, non-existent X receiver
CB - Dowling/Rookie, Dennard, Arrington


He either never bothered to look at the WR FA class, or he just wrote this garbage because his deadline was coming and he didn't have time to actually think.


If he worked in an industry where quality mattered, that column could have gotten him fired.
He started off the column with:

"What follows here is one man’s opinion on the Patriots’ weak points and how they’ll go about filling those spots. We’ll purposely be light on free agent names because it’s so early in the process that it’s difficult to tell who will be available."

Not sure how much more a disclaimer he can give. He isn't reporting here, he's just offering an opinion. It's the offseason, that's what everyone does. Will everything happen that he says will happen? No. But I think most of it should/will happen.
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13,17,21,14,14.........points Pats scored in their playoff losses in the WW era. When the Pats play complete defenses on the big stage, their small ball approach gets snuffed out. Defenses can squeeze the center of the field knowing Brady's fleet of short route specialists
will rarely try to expand the field.
The time may have come to explore alternatives. Verses Baltimore, Kaepernick had only 16 completions but for 300+ yds and his team scored 31. Brady had 29 completions for 300+ yds but amassed only 13 points.. In this small ball offense, Brady had 25 incompletions....that's 25 plays of no gain......add in 3 runs of zero yds and 3 turnovers gets you 38% of offensive plays went for no gain or worse. A 53% passing attack that nets low yards/play.......that's the formula that loses verses championship caliber defenses.
If it's that easy to squeeze the middle and take away the small ball, how come it doesn't happen more often? Even by the teams that have successfully done it in the playoffs? I mean, in the regular season Brady ate Baltimore's defense for lunch. In 2007, the Pats scored 38 in New York during the last week of the season, but couldn't do much in the Super Bowl. Same team, same defense, but the Pats shredded them just 4 weeks earlier. Against the Jets in 2010 the Pats racked up 45 points late in the regular season but couldn't do much in the playoffs.
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He started off the column with:

"What follows here is one man’s opinion on the Patriots’ weak points and how they’ll go about filling those spots. We’ll purposely be light on free agent names because it’s so early in the process that it’s difficult to tell who will be available."

Not sure how much more a disclaimer he can give. He isn't reporting here, he's just offering an opinion. It's the offseason, that's what everyone does. Will everything happen that he says will happen? No. But I think most of it should/will happen.
If he felt he didn't have sufficient info, he shouldn't have written the column. He wrote it, so it's his baby. He should have chosen a different topic, or done better research. It's a crap column.
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The only thing this team, offensively, needs to do is re-sign Welker, keep Lloyd, draft a RG, and draft a big bodied receiver that's capable of threatening every level of the field and can help the red zone offense should Gronk go down with injury again. Letting Welker walk and getting rid of Lloyd is beyond retarded.
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Best Offense last season, 3rd best all time. Yea, lets just blow the entire thing up.
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All of you people realize that when Bedard talks about letting Lloyd go, it's to save money to put toward a better WR, right? He's not promoting getting rid of Welker and Lloyd and replacing both of them with garbage.
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All of you people realize that when Bedard talks about letting Lloyd go, it's to save money to put toward a better WR, right? He's not promoting getting rid of Welker and Lloyd and replacing both of them with garbage.
OK. . . . so who are those two receivers going to be that are going to combine for 192 catches, 2,200+ yards, and 10 TDs, for less than the Pats would pay for Welker and Lloyd?
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