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Old 01-30-2013, 01:15 PM   #41
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:15 PM   #42
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Felger is supposedly going to ask Willie about this coming up in a few minutes. Let's see if he says anything interesting.
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As time passes, the one thing I lament is the poor PR job that this team has done on these types of issues.. they just take what these twitter loving jackazzes put out there.

The Pats should have refuted Spygate and refuted this crap.. as much as I respect BB, this is one thing that I wish he would change..
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My blood boils this morning when i first read all this crap.
If i have one complaint about the pats is the absolute miserable PR job they did by not responding to any of it. They dont care for the national media or what they say and its understandable but pats fans have to keep hearing this forever. Its the unfortunate truth.
There were a lot of us screaming for them not to cave, but they wanted to go along to get along. They were stupid for that, and time has shown that, I think.
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play-by-play:

USATODAY.com - Super Bowl XXXVI play-by-play

1 redzone possession for StL, 1 TD.

All 3rd down stops by NE for the entire game:

3rd and 18 from the SL 49: K.Warner pass to M.Faulk to NE 40 for 11 yards. Punt.

3rd and 3 from the NE 32: K.Warner pass incomplete to R. Proehl. made FG

3rd and 5 from the NE 34: K.Warner pass incomplete to A.Hakim. FG missed.

3rd and 1 from the 50: K.Warner pass incomplete to R.Proehl. Punt

3rd and 17 from the NE 48: K.Warner pass incomplete. Punt

3rd and 5 from the NE 45: K.Warner pass intended for T.Holt INTERCEPTED by O.Smith at NE 37. O.Smith to SL 33 for 30 yards.

3rd and 20 from the NE 49: K.Warner pass incomplete to T.Holt (O.Smith)


summary:
one 3rd down stopped by INT
three stopped, as expected, on 3rd and 17 or more yards
two stopped on 3rd and 5 attempts (a distance that favors the D)

So it would seem that the two 3rd and short incompletions to Proehl were really the Rams only really good 3rd down shots at keeping a drive alive. Making two stops is cheating. OK. Or maybe you can run it on 3rd and 1 from midfield, you pansy.
Especially since, as I recall, they were supposed to have had a pretty decent running back. Forget his name, though.
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FWIW, check out the reddit thread on this over in r/nfl:

Marshall Faulk: 'I'll never be over being cheated out of Super Bowl' by the Patriots : nfl

Each poster's fandom is noted by the logo next to the username. The most popular comment string (with 330 upvotes and 86 downvotes) is a Seahawks fan, a Dolphins fan, and a Ravens fan all agreeing that Spygate was pretty much a non-issue that gets blown way out of proportion by idiot fans (and idiot players) who don't have any understanding of what happens.

I guess that what I'm saying is, as much as we have to deal with the crappiest fans from all of the opposing teams, we shouldn't forget that in general, more fans than not understand how minor it all was.
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Willie:

"We had checks for every situation, I don't know what he's talking about specifically but we had checks for every formation regardless of what we saw them do on game film."

"If we had extra information that game wouldn't have come down to a field goal"
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I know like all of you I am getting sick of tired of hearing about this crap every year during the Superbowl.....whether we are in it or not. It's stunning, it really is. I wish someone would pull aside this douche and tell him enough is enough. He's only tarnishing his own image at this point. Everything that has been said about us has been said.

I really want to say "Who cares?" but the fact is, I do care. I'm TIRED of this.
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I love the fans who scream "cover up" and "destroyed the evidence" as if the league couldn't have just said "the Patriots did nothing wrong" and been done with it if they wanted to. Goodell screwed the pooch by burning those tapes because it gave everyone a conspiracy theory. If they had just shown the damn things like the Walsh tapes we wouldn't be talking about this 5 years later.
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I love the fans who scream "cover up" and "destroyed the evidence" as if the league couldn't have just said "the Patriots did nothing wrong" and been done with it if they wanted to. Goodell screwed the pooch by burning those tapes because it gave everyone a conspiracy theory. If they had just shown the damn things like the Walsh tapes we wouldn't be talking about this 5 years later.
Goodell screwed the pooch with his idiotic press conference railing against the Patriots as if they'd been drowning puppies instead of filming from the sidelines when the could legally have been filming from inside a properly located and enclosed area.

Had he just noted that the Patriots location was the problem and given an appropriate fine (low pick, small dollars), this issue would have died in a week.
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Goodell screwed the pooch with his idiotic press conference railing against the Patriots as if they'd been drowning puppies instead of filming from the sidelines when the could legally have been filming from inside a properly located and enclosed area.

Had he just noted that the Patriots location was the problem and given an appropriate fine (low pick, small dollars), this issue would have died in a week.
Given BB's hit rate on first rounders, it really makes your blood boil, doesn't it.
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