zipster9

Goldson said himself, that Patriots "low ball-ed him" and offered less than what Niners offered.

Undestandable.

But, sometimes, Patriots "low-balling" method, backfires. This is one case.

Not everyone wants to play for the Patriots, for peanuts !

BradyFTW!

I was all in favor of signing him when he visited here, but you're right that he was not without his flaws. It wasn't a slam dunk, by a long shot. The general consensus on this board was that he and Meriweather were basically the same, so what's the point.

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Joker

reading this thread just reminded me..hey!..I coulda had a V-8...

supafly

That's basically it. Goldson pre-2011/2012 was a totally different story. If not, then why did the 49'ers pretty much offer the same kind of low end deal?

Since then, he's had 2 very nice years to make the "looking back" perspective that much harder, but SF also benefitted by some good fortune also, and that isn't getting brought up nearly enough.

Another thing to consider is that he probably wouldn't be quite the same player here, as he has one hell of a defense playing around him in SF. That has to be factored in also.

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patsfan-1982

yes he's a better safety then what the pats are playing now but lets not forget he has the best front 7 in the NFL in front of him

NE_PATS_FAN_54

Why look back in hindsight and blame the Pats for this, when we can do it in the present! I didn't get the Gregory signing last year and after seeing him play this year, I really don't get it. Terrible signing. Here's hoping Tavon Wilson or Ebner turn into something.

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tonyto3690

Gregory is being paid HOW much?

Wow. That is freaking terrible. It's not like he was some moderately high upside player either. He's undersized and a mediocre tackler. Though to be fair I suppose he'd be a decent FS compliment in theory with Chung at SS. With McCourty he's completely redundant and flat out inferior.

All stating the obvious. I know I shouldn't expect the Patriots to strike gold everytime and never make any mistakes but it's hard not to expect better from them.

As for the Goldson signing, not terribly bent out of shape about. As others stated he was very average, and nothing special. Watching him I haven't been particularly impressed. He's a thumper and average in coverage who is one of the worst tacklers on their team. He also greatly benefits from amazing front 7 play and quality CB play. I suppose with safety talent at an all time low though, you take what you can get.

supafly

Gregory's cap hit for the upcoming 2013 season is 2.2 million dollars.

While they could potentially hit on another safety in the draft and/or take someone much better in free agency, let's not make it out like he has a cap hit of 5 million dollars either.

Many here wanted James Sanders as a rotational depth player when he was let go, and IIRC his cap hit was around 3 million dollars that year although it's been awhile so don't quote me on that.

Gregory could still offer a lot of value staying as a rotational guy or even potentially a TE specialist, and if injuries come as they often do he has shown that he can step in and start. Would an upgrade be good? Of course, but he came on to do just fine down the stretch of the season as he played much better with McCourty alongside him, plus as his knowledge increased.

I think next offseason is an entirely different story as he'll likely be let go as his hit increases, but they already likely know that right now. This year I'm fine with keeping Gregory for a 2.2 hit. I know that I don't want Belichick to gamble and lose again like the 2011 season. If our talent improves that much this offseason at safety to where they can let Gregory go, that'd be even better, but I doubt that'll happen.

In the meantime:

1.McCourty
2. Major FA signing or high draft pick to pair alongside of DMcC (lots of great names in there)
3. Gregory/Wilson battle for 3 spot/dime back specialty role
4. Gregory/Wilson battle for 4 spot/rotational role
5. Ebner or improvement

That's not shaping up to be too bad of a 5 group safety corps with the addition of just one more player. On top of that it's also a position that doesn't cost much money either.

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tonyto3690

2.2 million is way too much for an undersized backup FS who can't tackle.

I wasn't fond of the deal when it was made but gave the Patriots the benefit of the doubt that they were seeing something I wasn't seeing. Clearly wasn't the case. His contract is way too big. He should be a minimum salary player.

UofApatsfan

The amount he's getting paid doesn't bother me as much as the 3 year part. At the time of the deal McCourty was a corner and a FS compliment to Chung was the need at safety, but 3 years is a long ass time in the NFL. Gregory also isn't going to get better with more experience in the system, his problems last year were physical limitations and being unathletic.