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Old 01-28-2013, 02:05 AM   #111
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I was this draft to go to D this year as well...where we need help the most
Obviously best case we re-sign Welker to a longer term pact which will lower the cap hit, then do a couple of restructures/ 2 yr extension for #12 to free up more money.

We could target some nice FA's on the defense this way, keep the offense basically the same with potential upgrade, and still grab some nice young players in the draft in April.

I'd prefer that they signed one of the free agent safeties this year, then drafted a CB in rounds 1-3 to shore up the secondary.

Pick #2 or #3 could be a WR, or vice versa.
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I'd prefer that they signed one of the free agent safeties this year, then drafted a CB in rounds 1-3 to shore up the secondary.

that hasn't worked for the past 5 years
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that hasn't worked for the past 5 years
Huh? What hasn't worked? Devin McCourty at safety paired up with any number of top tier free agent safeties that come at a position that is somewhat affordable for a top notch player?

I didn't remember that happening yet...

As far as the CB position goes, it HAS worked, just not to the degree that we'd have liked it to.

I can think of two names off the top of my head that worked just fine...McCourty and Dennard. They are also our top 2 secondary players moving forward.

Yes, I'd much rather go top notch FA at safety which is much more cost efficient and deeper, then overpay at the position of FA CB. That only leaves one other way to get another cornerback....you tell me what it is?
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that hasn't worked for the past 5 years
And since you're keeping tabs and all, I'd love to hear about the success rate of all of those top round WR's who have worked out here, while you're at it?

You know, the ones who don't even grasp the playbook and have trouble lining up in the proper formation?

I agree with you that we'll need to take a flier at the WR position in the top rounds of the draft..yet again, but they'd have to hit quite a HR to guarantee the kind of production that we'll need for next season, and not in 2014 when they finally come off of their red-shirt year.

The secondary is as much of a need as the WR position, arguably more, since that is the side of the ball that continuously allows back breaking TD drives to lose big games.

The WR position is certainly important, but not nearly as much if they retain Welker. Regardless, the safety class in free agency is where it's at. It's affordable, it brings proven vets with talented experience, and it's probably the best solution out there. That includes resigning Talib, who hasn't earned a damn thing but a 1-2 yr deal at below market value (unless you deem his market value to be in the range of approx. 6 million per year at the highest end).

The positions of WR and CB will need to be addressed in 2 ways. One via the draft, and one via middle/lower level free agency, those are the only realistic ways cap wise...unless you are planning on getting rid of Welker which is then a whole new ballgame and instantly weakens our record setting offensive production.
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Victor Cruz and Danny Amendola interest me but both are likely getting big extensions.
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Highlighted would be my choices in each area.

Obviously all of this is stipulated on the $$ situation adding up
Not sure you want S.Smith though. Hes not exactly NE material. He can catch, but he can also start 16 fights a year, and the guy a thug.
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Highlighted would be my choices in each area.

Obviously all of this is stipulated on the $$ situation adding up
VictorCruz would be the perfect fast, jump-ball, vertical threat.

I'd pay him 10m/yr easy. But that's me.

If Welker leaves, Hartline would be much better option than Edelman.
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Not sure you want S.Smith though. Hes not exactly NE material. He can catch, but he can also start 16 fights a year, and the guy a thug.
Personally, I think New England needs some more players who enjoy playing like thugs at the right time, especially on D.
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Personally, I think New England needs some more players who enjoy playing like thugs at the right time, especially on D.
ok, lol, I can see that, but smith has the IQ of a ceiling fan, and the mind set of a rapper wanna be. Everyone in the NFCS knows this. Just no other fans.

He will start fights
Dolphins CB Vontae Davis, Panthers WR Steve Smith Fight - YouTube

and he has not problem bashing Brady
Steve Smith Unhappy With Cam Newton: Panthers WR Says He Called Out QB During Loss To Giants

I think you want tough players, not playas, lol
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As has already been pointed out, the Steve Smith who is a free agent is not the Steve Smith who's been playing for Carolina. He's the Steve Smith who's been playing for the Rams, formerly of the Giants and Eagles. He hasn't been the same since he had microfracture surgery on his knee.
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