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I think Edelman may be the key player in the "What is the best way to approach the offseason for the Pats?" issue. If the Pats believe he can give them 80% of what Welker did (not necessarily in terms of production but in terms of effectiveness...and no, those aren't the same things), then they can do it at a fraction of the cost and use Welker's money to shore up the team elsewhere.
I personally think he has the skill not to duplicate what Welker does, because Wes is a unique player. But I do think Edelman can be a very, very effective replacement, at a much lower cost. The issue for him is whether or not he can stay healthy. One of the great things about Welker is that he's a cyborg, apparently. He takes so many huge hits and just keeps on playing. Edelman spends a lot more time injured than Welker does.
But if they had confidence in Edelman - and really, couldn't that be the reason they gave him so much playing time to start the year, instead of Welker...as a sort of "tryout"? - they could then spend the $10 million on defensive help or to add another big-time receiver.
why would he do in year 5 what he couldn't do in the first 4?
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why would he do in year 5 what he couldn't do in the first 4?
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It takes time for players to blossom and it appears that Edelman is doing just that. He clearly is important as a backup WR/ST/Utility player. He's a true player and he adds another dimension to the team if he can stay healthy.
He won't replace Welker but he's an important guy to resign. Was Troy Brown any more productive over his first 4 years than Edelman? Not even close. Edleman has been far more productive than Brown based on their first 4 years.
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why would he do in year 5 what he couldn't do in the first 4?
I agree, his 'explosion' happened this year. Unlikely to see the guy take another step, unless that other step is 'learning how to stay healthy.'
Although, I will say Edelman's broken foot should not be taken against him. Broken bones are largely freak, isolated incidents.
If you take that away, it's really only his concussion and hand injuries from this year which were concerns.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
I'm not even all about Welker being resigned but I do think it would take more than 2 RB and a ST/PR/WR/CB to replace the best slot receive in the NFL.
Last season threads talked about converting Edelman to CB full time now he is Randall Cobb and the key to are offense.
why would he do in year 5 what he couldn't do in the first 4?
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Do you think if he was given the full-time starting WR role, running basically the same routes as Welker (maybe a few more deep patterns as well), and if he stayed healthy (the biggest issue), he would put up good numbers?
I don't think he would put up the same numbers Welker did, but don't you think he'd put up good numbers? Don't you think he'd put up better numbers than he has the first four years of his career?
He has 69 rec, 714 yds, 10.3 ypc, and 4 td in his career. If he was a starting WR taking the vast majority of snaps, how close to those numbers would he put up in 2013, again, assuming he stayed healthy? What's your guess?
Do you think if he was given the full-time starting WR role, running basically the same routes as Welker (maybe a few more deep patterns as well), and if he stayed healthy (the biggest issue), he would put up good numbers?
I don't think he would put up the same numbers Welker did, but don't you think he'd put up good numbers? Don't you think he'd put up better numbers than he has the first four years of his career?
He has 69 rec, 714 yds, 10.3 ypc, and 4 td in his career. If he was a starting WR taking the vast majority of snaps, how close to those numbers would he put up in 2013, again, assuming he stayed healthy? What's your guess?
Edelman can put up a 70 catch, 800 yard, 6 TD season. With many more drops and missed plays to get that production. A related drawback is the offense will nose dive and they would barely make the playoffs by forcing the ball just to get this kid his numbers.
It takes time for players to blossom and it appears that Edelman is doing just that. He clearly is important as a backup WR/ST/Utility player. He's a true player and he adds another dimension to the team if he can stay healthy.
He won't replace Welker but he's an important guy to resign. Was Troy Brown any more productive over his first 4 years than Edelman? Not even close. Edleman has been far more productive than Brown based on their first 4 years.
Agreed. I think Edelman has that 'it' factor that allows him to make big plays for us. He is a must resign but he will be affordable because of his injury history and such. If Edelman could just stay healthy he could put up big numbers for the Pats offense and ST.
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I like the heart, the willingness to do whatever asked to do shown by Edelman. Can't help but cheer for players like that. But he is no Wes Welker! He isn't even 80% of Wes Welker. Edelman can not stay healthy. He can not run routes or get the separation Welker is able to. I will surely be disappointed in the coaching staff if they let Welker go thinking Edelman can replace him.
Agreed. I think Edelman has that 'it' factor that allows him to make big plays for us. He is a must resign but he will be affordable because of his injury history and such. If Edelman could just stay healthy he could put up big numbers for the Pats offense and ST.
I think if the Pats can resign Edelman at a reasonable price (which I think they should be able to) it'll be one of the smarter re-signings they make this offseason. He has too much upside and this team needs depth at WR and ST. Branch should be on his way out and Welker is a '?'.
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