The Pats Should CONSIDER Replacing Matt Patricia - Page 8 - New England Patriots Forums

***shmessy*** · 01-24-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciz

First five snaps of the game (but I'll keep doing more if I need to)
20 - Reed
31 - Pollard
29 - Williams
24 - Graham
23 - Brown
22 - Smith
32 - Ihedigbo

First snap: (Williams is off the screen the right; after this one I realized how impractical the back view is)

Second snap:

Third snap:

Fourth snap:

Fifth snap:

Thank you for giving this actual facts and data instead of the personal attacks and bloviations we've seen by a few others.

Get it shawtaay · 01-24-2013, 02:24 PM

Great stuff Sciz. Nice to see some objectivity in here.

***Sciz*** · 01-24-2013, 02:32 PM

Here are the 12 snaps from the second drive. It includes two of the three base snaps in the game.

6th snap: (Pats took off Welker, Ravens matched with base)

7th snap: (Again, no Welker and base)

8th snap:

9th snap:

10th snap:

11th snap:

***Sciz*** · 01-24-2013, 02:33 PM

12th snap:

13th snap:

14th snap:

15th snap:

16th snap:

17th snap: (Ridley run for no gain on 3rd and 2)

That's all I'm going to do for now. If people still don't believe that the Ravens played nickel basically the entire game, then I'll gladly do more.

By the way, there's one base snap remaining, and that was where the Pats used 7 offensive linemen and the Ravens matched with a 3 safety, 0 CB defense. The two Welkerless snaps and that heavy goal line snap were the only three snaps Welker missed all game, and the only three snaps the Ravens didn't use their nickel defense in.

DocHoliday · 01-24-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Sorry, but Baltimore wasn't in their "Nickel" defense 90% of the game the way Bedard suggests. In fact, it's an outright lie.

The Baltimore Front 7 of Suggs, Lewis, Ellerbe, Kruger, Ngata, McPhee, with Jones /Kemoeatu (rotating at LDE) were out there a majority of the time.

Cough, cough.

moejr · 01-24-2013, 02:42 PM

I'd rather see McDaniels replaced than Patricia

***BradyFTW!*** · 01-24-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylStingley

My post/theory isn't just focused on the Baltimore game, though.

I agree that personnel is key.

Then what is it based on? In pretty much every game where he had two competent corners and one competent safety to work with, Patricia's defense did pretty well.

DarrylStingley · 01-24-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Then what is it based on? In pretty much every game where he had two competent corners and one competent safety to work with, Patricia's defense did pretty well.

Fair point. But my reaction and post wasn't based on one game. It was based on the points I made in my OP and other posts, which you likely are not concerned with.

voluntarysaftey · 01-24-2013, 05:03 PM

I would take the Mangenius back.
At the time, I didn't think he was anything special. But I think he's improved, and he seems regretful. So if they can bury the hatchet, I think he'd be a big upgrade.

There's just something wrong with this team's inability to develop defensive players.
CBs, Safetys show flashes of potential, then decline.
The Front 7 shows flashes then tapers off at the 'good but not playmaker' level

And it's been a really long time since we heard 'Bill the Genius really outcoached them'. It's really just 'the offense is so good that when they're clicking, which is most of the time, we just blow out the other team'

PATRlOT · 01-25-2013, 07:18 PM

I want Crennel back. Not a fan of Patricia whatosever