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Re: Am I the only one who does NOT want Welker back?
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae
There's a fair number somewhere between $8 million and $11.5 million for Welker. By lengthening the deal, but keeping the guaranteed money only for years 1-2 (or at least mostly for years 102), the Patriots would get a hedge against decline, while Welker would still be able to bring in good cash if his performance warrants it, and that should also allow for a number that gets closer and closer to the $8 million number the more the team is willing to offer a bit more 'cheddar' in terms of longer range guarantees.
The problem would potentially be that the Patriots might still be more focused on winning a negotiation than on working out a fair agreement.
As for Wes not being stupid, I agree with you. There are obviously plenty of teams that could use his help, and I expect that several would be quite willing to pay him at least somewhat accordingly.
That seems fair, but I doubt it will be enough to beat out the competitors. I won't venture into speculation about exactly how his contract is budgeted; however, I will go out on a limb and guess that he will get signed at 5 years, $75 million. Thirteen mill for the first two, fifteen the following two, and the final year at $19 million. The last year or two will be incentive-laden, but the first three will be primarily guaranteed.
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Re: Am I the only one who does NOT want Welker back?
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Originally Posted by hovis
That seems fair, but I doubt it will be enough to beat out the competitors. I won't venture into speculation about exactly how his contract is budgeted; however, I will go out on a limb and guess that he will get signed at 5 years, $75 million. Thirteen mill for the first two, fifteen the following two, and the final year at $19 million. The last year or two will be incentive-laden, but the first three will be primarily guaranteed.
Are we talking about the same guy?
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Originally Posted by Fake Nate Ebner
No big deal...only took me 3 defensive plays to be drafted before Tom Brady
Re: Am I the only one who does NOT want Welker back?
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Originally Posted by hovis
That seems fair, but I doubt it will be enough to beat out the competitors. I won't venture into speculation about exactly how his contract is budgeted; however, I will go out on a limb and guess that he will get signed at 5 years, $75 million. Thirteen mill for the first two, fifteen the following two, and the final year at $19 million. The last year or two will be incentive-laden, but the first three will be primarily guaranteed.
Re: Am I the only one who does NOT want Welker back?
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Originally Posted by Sciz
Yeah, if he wants the GM on the phone to laugh at him and then hang up.
DeSean Jackson of all people got 5 years at $51 million LAST year. Wes consistently racks up over twice as many receptions, more yards, and more TDs. Someone will offer substantially more than that for his services.
That seems fair, but I doubt it will be enough to beat out the competitors. I won't venture into speculation about exactly how his contract is budgeted; however, I will go out on a limb and guess that he will get signed at 5 years, $75 million. Thirteen mill for the first two, fifteen the following two, and the final year at $19 million. The last year or two will be incentive-laden, but the first three will be primarily guaranteed.
Are you high?
The Patriots offered 9 per last year, now you think they're going to offer roughly 13-14 per?
For that much money they'd just take over Fitzgerald's contract.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
Re: Am I the only one who does NOT want Welker back?
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Originally Posted by hovis
DeSean Jackson of all people got 5 years at $51 million LAST year. Wes consistently racks up over twice as many receptions, more yards, and more TDs. Someone will offer substantially more than that for his services.
Jackson was also 25 when he got his contract. Nobody is going to give Welker a 5 year contract, much less for Fitz money.
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No big deal...only took me 3 defensive plays to be drafted before Tom Brady
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