Mangini: The Ravens did to the Patriots what the Patriots used to do to the Colts - Page 6 - New England Patriots Forums

hoeilaart · 01-23-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by condon84

When we beat the Colts, we outplayed them. Same thing with what happened with the Ravens outplaying us Sunday. People can rationalize it however they want to. It's not like the Ravens employed a new tactic we've never seen before. They just did it better than anybody. And our guys just didn't meet the challenge.

Wrong. Any other team (any other Sunday) gets called for holding or illegal contact and the game is played within the rules.

olschool · 01-23-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by coolguy

It's time to turn the page on welker. The patriots let Deion branch walk after proving how dependable he was in the postseason....unlike welker.

WRONG. Welker catches well over 100 passes a year. He's almost indefensible in Brady's quick time game, and is Brady's go to guy period.

He's reliable, durable, as tough as they come, and the most profilic WR in the league since he got here.

That he's too short to grab an overthrown pass, on the rare occasion that Brady tosses one, to me is Brady's fault not Welker's.

Of the thousands of passes thrown his way, I can remember only a few dropped passes that should have been easy catches. The misses in the playoffs may be more magnified, but for the most part I still blame them on Brady, not Wes.

There isn't anyone who's 100% perfect. Never has been, never will be.

captain stone · 01-24-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanvamp

Adding Dennard, Spikes, and Hightower are a good start. All of those guys play a very physical style of football. And McCourty is a pretty physical guy too. Mayo is no pushover. I don't know who is out there that represents a real improvement to what they have in this department. Any ideas?

No ideas yet on his replacement (we'll see who's available when the free agency period starts),
but Steve Gregory does not belong on the field during possible running situations (except for
The ButtFumble). He is strictly a Centerfielder who, when paired w/ McCourty, make up one of
the lightest, least intimidating Safety combos in football.
Otherwise, the rest of the defense is tough enough, especially vs the run.

Triumph · 01-24-2013, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by grux

I miss the days when our defense used to play physical. Watch this video from 2:51. Pats classics- 2003 AFC Championship vs Colts - YouTube
Spikes has been a nice physical presence but he needs some help from a safety and corner back.

NE won Super Bowls because of defense. They never had to score 30+ points to get the job done and until they change the rules to basketball, nothing has changed. The more physical defense will usually prevail.

The Pats have been B slapped in 2 SBs, the WC round, Division round and now the Championship round. The highest scoring offense in the NFL produced 1 TD and 2 FGs when it mattered the most.

After NE beat Pitt in the 2004 AFCC, John Clayton was quoted as saying that "NE has 3 or 4 guys that will grab you by throat and refuse to lose."

Where are those guys today?