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Curious timing.

Sources: Reese not expected back in 2013 - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

Does this mean they're giving Nick Caserio more authority, or are they expecting another reunion?

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edgeofepic

While the Pats haven't won a SB since Pioli left I think there's a sense that Belichick doesn't need Pioli. Once upon a time people would say the Patriots would always be a contender so long as they had Brady, Belichick and Pioli. I think it's a 2 horse show now... with BB even proving he could win with Matt Cassell... something Pioli couldn't do without BB (and of course a much deeper roster.) Nonetheless, this Floyd Reece announcement is a curious move. I sense that within 2-3 years BB will be taking over the front office and hand the coaching keys to Josh McDaniels.

If there was to ever be a reunion I'd welcome a Romeo Crennel return. I think our offense hasn't skipped a beat since Charlie Weis left but our defense has certainly dipped compared to the RAC years, especially our secondary (although I doubt we'd ever seen Rat Mangini return.)

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Ivan

Could be a Pioli sighting in NE in the near future.

Armchair Quarterback

I haven't seen Reese's job description described as anything more than an adviser who conducted contract negotiations with Caserio handling the personnel. I don't think it affects Caserio's authority one way or another.

Gumby

Not sure why you all are using the "curious timing" words with this.

the articles says he had a 4 year contract and it expires at the end of the season (which is either today or in 2 weeks for the Pats)
----the article said it was amicable; maybe HE wants to leave as much/more as Pats want to let him go. He lived most of his life elsewhere/Houston - maybe it was just a ST gig from HIS PERSPECTIVE. Maybe he just wants to GO HOME.

He was originally hired as a stop-gap to help caserio not have to do EVERYTHING (personnel contracts) that Pioli used to.
---- Do you not think that after 4 YEARS you can't find / develop more guys who know how to do the contract negotiation role.

Floyd is 64 (not sure when his 65 is - could be next month);
---- Maybe he is just TIRED and wants to RETIRE.


He also was 'supposedly' hired to help put a friendlier message from the organization in the hard negotiations that had given the Pats a rep for a heavy hand. I am not sure that was ever officially acknowledged as a reason for the hire, but it made sense.
-----After the WW debacle; maybe the shine/smell has worn off the Reese rose. Since he didnt get wes done; maybe this would be the only reason I can think of as a NEGATIVE reason on why he is leaving.

And to me this is the real question: HOW will his leaving affect the STYLE/TENOR of Pats upcoming negotiations????? - Will they play HARD-BALL w/ WW - Talib & other guys we would like to see extended / re-signed.

pdangle

(AP) Rumours swirl that BB ever vigilant for even the slightest edge had delayed the announcement of this sad news until today in hopes of best motivating the Patriots to go out there and 'win one for the "Floydster"'. Many speculate that the pecululiar timing of the announcement is an obvious (and some say callous) attempt to counteract the emotional edge the Birds are feeling over the well documented immenent retirement of LB Ray Lewis, team captian. BB offered no comment.

Fencer

Well-argued. And by the way, things weren't all puppies and daisies with Mankins, either.

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Nooooooooooo

The Pats drafts have improved since Pioli left and the KC drafts have been a joke.

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reflexblue

I hope not. IMO the team has drafted better since hes left.

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I'm surprised Floyd lasted as long as he did here. It seemed all along this was a stop gap hire that also gave him a gig after he got scapegoated by Fisher (before Fisher finally got squeezed out) in Tennessee where a meddlesome owner created a good deal of infighting over his popularity driven draft choices. Figured his hire was always just a case of opportunity meets need as they needed a veteran presence in the FO to help ease Caserio's transition and Floyd needed a job and a shot at rehabbing his resume. I recall his name being floated as a potential candidate for a job or two the first couple of seasons but nothing ever came of it. Either he wants to be free to persue other opportunities or Nick is in line for a title change and promotion to VP of PP after the last two seasons (will never get the title GM as long as BB is here as final authority has always rested with him) and needs to or has earned the opportinity to take over the contract and cap functions.

Can't see Pioli returning here unless Caserio decides to move on for that elusive GM title. And that won't happen this season. He and Josh could decide to move on together in another year or two if the right situation arises. I could see a Pioli return in that situation or ultimately if and when BB retires because when he does I don't see BB hanging around as a GM. That's his least favorite part of the job. He's a firm believer that a HC has to control his own destiny via final say. If his eventual HC replacement comes up through the ranks as is likely the plan, I doubt the Krafts would be comfortable handing over that level of control to a new/young HC. I think that is when they would be looking for a seasoned and more familiar face like a Pioli or Dimetroff to perhaps return to the fold to insure a smoother transition to the next phase of the organizations existence. Until or unless Pioli lands another total control job he would always remain available to return to one here.

This was always an interim dead end job for Floyd unless Caserio flopped or bolted and neither has happened. As long as BB is here there will also be developmental guys in the pipeline like Nick who will get a shot ahead of a retread. Same as the Dom Capers deal. And just like if RAC really needed a job they'd find one for him here but it wouldn't be DC in waiting unless the cupboard was inexplicably bare.

Pioli is kind of a unique situation (somewhat akin to Josh) as he really fumbled the ball out of the gate on his first lone venture and fans soured on him to extreme levels. It was more to be expected in Josh's case than Pioli's because of all the credit he received for the better part of a decade here. He may have a hard time finding another FO job let alone one with total control. Although I could see him landing somewhere paired with Josh after next season or even paired with BOB if interest remains high in him come the next coaching/FO carousel cycle.