PatriotSeven

If he was as hurt as bad as that and his arm was so bad he couldn't throw an accurate pass? Honestly, yes I can. No doubt in my mind. Brady's above proving "he's tough" and would know he's ineffective and hurting his team. Brady's the biggest team player I know.

Bella*chick

It would never come to that. Our coaches would get to him before he had to yank himself if it was that obvious. I just think Shanahan really wanted a playoff win and made a horrible decision.

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MoLewisrocks

He had an LCL replacement/reconstruction and an ACL replacement/reconstruction. That was going to be a given if there was any structural damage to either. They knew this at the latest last night when dad spilled the beans to Mort.

It's back to square one for RGIII only this time with the complication of a reconstructed LCL and those can take longer to rehab than the ACL and in tandem the dual rehab is critical and more complicated. ACL/MCL (inner tendon vs. outer one) combos are more frequent and the MCL heals faster which is why some docs still prefer to wait on them and strengthen the remaining knee stability ligaments before undertaking the ACL. LCL's alone can take 8-12 months to heal. AD was as you indicated a genetic freak in that the overall condition of his inner knee was pristine by orthopedic standards. And it took him 9 months to begin his comeback player of the year drive recovering from a less complicated injury.

Spiral

One other reason for pessimism is that most injuries to right-handed QBs are on their left knee. If he ends up with someone caving in his front knee, he will have issues (and maybe braces) on both knees.

Anyone else wonder why Dr. Andrews was on the sidelines during these games? He's not the "team doctor" type who's at every game. My guess is that Snyder didn't trust the team's normal medical staff or his coaching staff.

MoLewisrocks

Brady is a 35 year old grown man who has 3 rings and 3 kids and has been to 5 super bowls and undergone numerous surgical procedures as well as contract restructures and extensions. RGIII even with a prior ACL reconstruction under his belt is a 22 year old NFL rookie man child driven to prove himself at the next level and man childs tend to believe they are invincible until repeatedly proven otherwise.

KontradictioN

Yep. This isn't the first time the NFL has seen a form of the option offense like the read option. Every team up to the 2004 Falcons that has tried it has seen their quarterback sustain injuries and the offensive system eventually go the way of the dinosaur.

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MoLewisrocks

He is now but he wasn't necessarily in 2001-02. He wanted to come back into the AFCC game in Pittsburgh. Don't kid yourself he didn't see the dream potentially turning into his worst nightmare. He'd taken a toradol shot per Felger and gotten it wrapped, but Belichick chose not to reinsert him although had Bingo not stepped up yet again and Drew not lucked out on a couple of plays he might have. Bill was trusting the rest of his guys and Slash to carry the day allowing Brady to more effectively live to fight another, even more significant battle still looming on the horizen. One he knew he had little chance of winning without him. Shanny had another player on deck who had already been battle tested and carried the day. Should have inserted him immediately after that sideline hit dramatically hobbled the guy he'd need to carry the day going forward absent a 14 point lead. But the panic driven win now mentality killed him.

Bella*chick

Perfect example, Mo. And how many times have I heard Brady say, "You NEVER want to see someone else doing your job?"

I just cannot imagine any player (except maybe LdT and Jay Cutler) doing it. And they got labelled as soft wussies. I think that players want to play if they can stand and move around. They need others to tell them "Enough" and that is what a competent coach is for.

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PatriotSeven

Honestly I think Brady's always been like this for the most part. I think it's just in his nature. He doesn't have to be the hero all the time in the eye of public opinion.

Brady has been the example for what it means to be an elite NFL QB and leader for like the past decade. The fact so few seems to really emulate it when it's been there for so long not only works out in our favor but also says something about how hard it must be to do that. When Ray Lewis talked about Brady's sacrifice being one of the reasons he is who he is, and how a lot of guys are not willing to do that, I believe one of the things included in that is his ability to not give in to that superstar/hero lifestyle. He has it, but he never acts like it publicly and I truly believe it is a HARD thing to do. When the entire world wants to make you their hero it must be really freaking hard to not get sucked into and give into that and remain level headed and realize you are still a "normal" human being. In some aspects I think Brady's image suffered in the short term, perfect example being how often he is overlooked for MVP considerations, and whatnot, but I think long term, it will pay off. And it's paying off for the team right now.

Even Manning, as good a dude as he is, has a bit of an ego imo and the Colts franchise suffered because of it. They wanted it to be all about Manning and the offense, and very little was put on the defense. He actually got lucky to end up with John Fox who is a very defensive minded coach and may actually end up helping his career in the end.

The difference I think is that if Bill asks next season for Tom to go back to being a game manager because they want to run the ball and make it more about the defense, I think he would and be 100% on board with it. Because I always felt Tom's ultimate goal truly was the team winning. A lot of guys say it, with Tom I believe it. I see it. As a starting quarterback, there's a big difference between believing the quarterback position is the most important part of the team, and the quarterback, yourself, is the most important person on the team. I think Tom believes the position is the most important part, and he just runs it, wanting to be the best man for the job. There is a difference. And it is humbling if you think about it from that perspective. For example does anyone think Bret Farve would have been willing to do something like this? Even Ben cried and moaned when they wanted to change their offense last year and I truly felt it would be in his advantage.

The only guy I see close to Tom right now is Rodgers and before that Montana. Of course it should be noted Rodgers, Tom and Montana were not top draft picks. And they're all introverts if you ask me. Go figure...

VJCPatriot

mobile qbs tend to have shorter shelf lives. i mean just look at vick, he battles with injuries all the time because he gets hit more. rg3 has a very promising start to his career. but he might never achieve the same burst he originally had after surgery. hoping the best for the young man, but he is definitely going to take his lumps as a mobile qb and his career will be shortened because of it.

Sorry, your comparison doesn't work because Rogers was a 1st round pick. #24 overall, still an early draft choice. Montana was a 3rd round pick btw, #82 overall. Same round as Mallett who was taken #74 overall which is actually earlier than Joe Cool. Brady has them all beat by a longshot as the #199 draft pick in the 6th round.

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