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Old 01-09-2013, 02:03 AM   #101
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I fell asleep in my chair and woke up to this on my screen:

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According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, Griffin will undergo “total reconstruction” surgery early Wednesday morning to repair complete tears to his ACL and LCL. Dr. James Andrews will perform the surgery and he is expected to miss six to eight months. Mortensen reported at 1:03 a.m. ET that the surgery would take place in “about six hours” placing the actual time of the surgery somewhere around 7 a.m. ET.
Report: Robert Griffin III out 6-8 months with complete ACL, LCL tears | ProFootballTalk

Best of luck to Mr. Griffin.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:12 AM   #102
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Obviously we can't predict the future of RG3, but if I had to bet I would choose the wager that states he'll recover just fine and go on to have a career that isn't necessarily "great," but one that leads his team to some successful seasons and playoff berths, while making some incredible plays along the way.

I'm not completely sold on his ability in all passing aspects as much as say, Andrew Luck, but he brings a different kind of component to the game with his ability to scramble and make plays out of nothing, which is not only exciting but often successful.

Like any other player his success obviously depends on the team and talent around him, so he could end up being the 2012 version of RG3, or he could be the current version of Cam Newton (plus), depending upon what the future holds. I'd guess that he recovers though, and that it's one of the bigger stories of the summer and into training camp.
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Turns out it's a complete tear of the LCL and the previously reconstructed ACL. They are predicting 6-8 month recovery barring complications, based on recent success stories. However those either involved only the ACL or mcl which heals easier/faster than the LCL which is the major ligament that stabilizes the knee from sliding off center from the outside. And they are in less easily charted territory considering this is the second full ACL reconstruction on the same knee in 3 years. Reconstructed ACL's are supposed to be stronger than the one you're born with once healed.

Heard Shanny in an interview with earlier trying to make the case that after watching film all of the injuries probably happened simultaneously when he was sacked just before the fumbled snap. Hogwash. His point in attempting to identify that as the breaking point for both tears is to get the entire sideline off the hook for allowing him to continue to play after that sideline tackle he came up dragging the leg from. Claiming that following the sack he never came out and there was no stoppage of play in which to re-assess him prior to the ensuing muffed snap and fumble. Someone in the Washington media should have the stones to suggest he administer himself a lie detector test like he used to players in Denver...

He (and Andrews) will be very cooperative with the national media who love him (them) going forward so they will continue to be absolved of responsibility. This kid was never assessed on the sidelines following that sideline hit. And any trainer worth employing can assess the kind of instability a torn LCL or ACL caused without benefit of MRI...hell, most TV observers can simply by watching the assessment...

Sources -- Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins to have ACL, LCL surgery, could be ready for opener - ESPN
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Obviously we can't predict the future of RG3, but if I had to bet I would choose the wager that states he'll recover just fine and go on to have a career that isn't necessarily "great," but one that leads his team to some successful seasons and playoff berths, while making some incredible plays along the way.

I'm not completely sold on his ability in all passing aspects as much as say, Andrew Luck, but he brings a different kind of component to the game with his ability to scramble and make plays out of nothing, which is not only exciting but often successful.

Like any other player his success obviously depends on the team and talent around him, so he could end up being the 2012 version of RG3, or he could be the current version of Cam Newton (plus), depending upon what the future holds. I'd guess that he recovers though, and that it's one of the bigger stories of the summer and into training camp.
He's going to have a hard time getting back to being what he was let alone refocusing on his passing game any time soon. His entire 2013 offseason will be rehab. Then there is the mental hurdle of playing on a now twice reconstructed knee to overcome. We've seen first hand that recovering from any ACL surgery can be a process. AP would appear to be the recent exception to that rule, but the position he plays translates easier than say a QB or WR once rehabbed or drafted.
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Report: Robert Griffin III out 6-8 months with complete ACL, LCL tears | ProFootballTalk

Best of luck to Mr. Griffin.
Ditto. And don't think this revelation wasn't leaked after most of the east coast was unconscious for no reason...
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He's going to have a hard time getting back to being what he was let alone refocusing on his passing game any time soon. His entire 2013 offseason will be rehab. Then there is the mental hurdle of playing on a now twice reconstructed knee to overcome. We've seen first hand that recovering from any ACL surgery can be a process. AP would appear to be the recent exception to that rule, but the position he plays translates easier than say a QB or WR once rehabbed or drafted.
RG3 is 22 (soon to be 23) and going in for his second major knee operation. That doesn't bode well for the future.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to RG3.
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He's going to have a hard time getting back to being what he was let alone refocusing on his passing game any time soon. His entire 2013 offseason will be rehab. Then there is the mental hurdle of playing on a now twice reconstructed knee to overcome. We've seen first hand that recovering from any ACL surgery can be a process. AP would appear to be the recent exception to that rule, but the position he plays translates easier than say a QB or WR once rehabbed or drafted.
I was not aware of the implications and specifics of the LCL and the job that it does, so that may make more sense to some of the doom and gloom reports. I can't help but think that some of the reports are trying to drum up drama, so that's where I am leery. Although it is a serious nature, I am wondering if some of the media outlets are trying to make a mountain out of a...smaller mountain (not a mole hill in this instance).

You are certainly right in pointing out that he may not be able to run nearly as effectively, and that is his bread and butter. While his deep ball sure looks good, I'm not completely sold that he has enough of what it takes in the NFL passing wise, as far as smarts, experience, and progressions etc go.

How the Redskins will approach their offense will go a long way toward his perceived falloff of next season. They depend on the run game so much and have been extremely successful in doing so, that they don't even really have to pass that much (although I saw that only going so far myself). If he's able to throw a bit in a scheme that based to shorter, quicker passes, they may be able to achieve something around the same record with some improvements on defense, which was already competitive.

At any rate, good luck to him, as he seems to be a good natured guy from all accounts.
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Report: Robert Griffin III out 6-8 months with complete ACL, LCL tears | ProFootballTalk

Best of luck to Mr. Griffin.
As predicted, not the partial tear scenario initially suggested, though it may not make much difference to his recovery scenario.
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i wish him the best of luck but most of the running type QB's turn into mike vick after a few years just a average QB
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