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Old 12-14-2012, 08:55 AM   #181
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What is ironic about Peyton Manning winning the MVP is that it would be an insult to all the current Denver players who were on the team last year when Denver made the playoffs and won their first round game with Tebow, and more importantly, without Manning.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:07 AM   #182
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people are getting too whiny about this.......manning is having an MVP season and his team is battling the pats for playoff position......he is worth yof consideration and possibly the award itself....to deny that is to be a blind homer
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Let the baby have his bottle, Brady and the Pats have bigger fish to fry.
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What is ironic about Peyton Manning winning the MVP is that it would be an insult to all the current Denver players who were on the team last year when Denver made the playoffs and won their first round game with Tebow, and more importantly, without Manning.
Indeed. At the end of the Tebow run, people were demanding that the Broncos defense get props, and we were being forcefed a diet of "Tebow's not doing it alone!". This year, it's all Manning. Poor Peyton had to go to a team with all new personnel.

Meanwhile, Brady's had a new LT,LG,C,RG,TE (*3),WR (*2) for parts of the season, but we don't hear a peep about that.
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People comparing brady's weapons with manning and his new system and team obviously ignored this when manning had all 1st round receivers and backs and TE's and brady played with reche caldwell and gaffeny for 1 season and went to the AFC champ game. Then the argument was manning didnt have a defense.Of course most of manning's playoff losses have come because the offense has crapped its bed.But we can ignore that.
Not only that but I LOVE it when Manning-fans(can't call them Colts fans, some of them jumped ship to Denver) complain about Manning not having a defense.

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And guess who played poorly in all those playoff games? Actually if you want to take it a step further. I broke this down on another forum but Manning statistically is absolutely atrocious in the 4th quarter of playoff games.
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"If" Manning wins the MVP, he'll know in his heart he doesn't deserve it. And so will everyone else.
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I think if Manning won, calling it a "travesty" would be way over the top.

A better distribution of awards might be:

MVP - Brady
Comeback Player of the Year - Manning
Offensive Player of the Year - ADP

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Indeed. At the end of the Tebow run, people were demanding that the Broncos defense get props, and we were being forcefed a diet of "Tebow's not doing it alone!". This year, it's all Manning. Poor Peyton had to go to a team with all new personnel.

Meanwhile, Brady's had a new LT,LG,C,RG,TE (*3),WR (*2) for parts of the season, but we don't hear a peep about that.
Not to mention they've pretty much changed to the offense that Manning's been running his entire career. It's the smart move on their part, but it isn't like Manning is learning a whole new system.
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Let the media fawn all over Peyton, it'll make it that much better when he loses in the playoffs.
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As I said earlier in the thread, the most disturbing thing about this to me is the one-sided nature of some of the Vegas odds, suggesting that the Houses have taken the pulse of the voters and determined that this is a sure thing. "Odds" are not about emotion, they're about cold, hard cash. Casinos don't like to be on the losing side of a big bet; witness how quickly the Pats spread went from -3 1/2 to nearly -6 points when it was reported that 55% of the money by Friday had been bet on New England over Houston.

I think that Brady, P. Manning and Peterson are all legitimate contenders for this award. As a Pats Fan, I look at the stats and circumstances and feel: "Hey, the award should go to Tommy." Reasonable people can disagree with that.

But for a "journalist" to indicate a month in advance where his/her vote is going so Vegas can make a book is bad; it would be great if an investigative reporter could "out" those voters, especially if any of them are laying down money on the outcome.

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