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Old 11-28-2012, 04:49 PM   #41
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I felt that 2010 was a year that Manning actually deserved the award unlike about 2-3 of his four actual wins. That Colts' team sucked and Manning carried it to 10 wins and without him they would have been close to the 2-14 team that they were the following year without him. The 2010 Colts was Manning, Freeney, Mathis, Wayne, Clark, and mostly JAGs (some with big names) for the rest of the roster.

The years Brady deserved the MVP and didn't win include 2005 and especially 2006 where he didn't have have much talent around him anywhere. You can argue he deserved it last year, but it was hard to take it away from Rodgers.
They were 2-14 without him because the Colts organization did not have the foresight to get a competent QB. Curtis Painter, Dan Orlovsky and grandpa Kerry Collins are beyond dreadful. This years Colts team aside from the QB might be worse than the 2011 team. Consider, their head coach has cancer, they no longer have Pierre Garcon and Wayne is a year older as well as most of the O-talent are rookies. Though Luck WILL be a good QB in the future once he gets more experience under his belt, this year he is playing mediocre but still manages to get the colts to a 7-4 record.

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I hope Brady destroys the Texans and 49ers D to remind everyone outside of Foxboro who the league's MVP and best player is.
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manning will win it regardless...oh well
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I hope Brady destroys the Texans and 49ers D to remind everyone outside of Foxboro who the league's MVP and best player is.
Should be an amazing two weeks of football.
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Well those two weeks will determine alot.I think it will determine this team's seeding because i see Baltimore and Houston losing a couple of more ganes.
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I could see the voters wanting to reward both Peyton and AP for the steller seasons they are having. So CPOY goes to AP and MVP goes to Peyton. And Brady...you were supposed to be awesome so despite your better numbers sucks to be you.
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The only year in history with a unanimous MVP, Brady with a 36-4 TD/INT ratio and a 111 QB rating, Manning's worst season since 2002, and you think Brady didn't deserve it but Manning did?


Ok..............
And years Brady deserved the MVP like 2006 were pedestrian years for his stats.

I do agree that the league MVP is sham based on stats (which you are implying) and popularity than truly who is the MVP, but I think the MVP deserves to go to the person who was the most valuable player on his team. In 2010, the Colts were Peyton Manning. Without him and with an average QB, they would have won three to four games. They were that bad.

Brady won it because the Pats went 14-2 (when many people were predicting the decline of the Pats that season and the Jets overtaking him) instead of 10-6 like the Colts did. Again, it is the dog and pony show of the league MVP.

I don't think Manning was better than Brady that year, but he was far more important to his team than Brady was. The 2010 Pats could have had a winning record with an average QB, the Colts couldn't have won 6 games without Manning that year.
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And years Brady deserved the MVP like 2006 were pedestrian years for his stats.

I do agree that the league MVP is sham based on stats (which you are implying) and popularity than truly who is the MVP, but I think the MVP deserves to go to the person who was the most valuable player on his team. In 2010, the Colts were Peyton Manning. Without him and with an average QB, they would have won three to four games. They were that bad.

Brady won it because the Pats went 14-2 (when many people were predicting the decline of the Pats that season and the Jets overtaking him) instead of 10-6 like the Colts did. Again, it is the dog and pony show of the league MVP.

I don't think Manning was better than Brady that year, but he was far more important to his team than Brady was. The 2010 Pats could have had a winning record with an average QB, the Colts couldn't have won 6 games without Manning that year.
Brady won it because he was the most valuable player in the NFL that year.



By a mile.
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They were 2-14 without him because the Colts organization did not have the foresight to get a competent QB. Curtis Painter, Dan Orlovsky and grandpa Kerry Collins are beyond dreadful. This years Colts team aside from the QB might be worse than the 2011 team. Consider, their head coach has cancer, they no longer have Pierre Garcon and Wayne is a year older as well as most of the O-talent are rookies. Though Luck WILL be a good QB in the future once he gets more experience under his belt, this year he is playing mediocre but still manages to get the colts to a 7-4 record.
Yes, they were 2-14 because they didn't have a competent QB, but they would have been 5-11 with a competent QB. That is my point. I didn't say that the Colts would have been 2-14 without Manning in 2010, but they would be closer to that.

People forget how Colts games went that year. Opposing offenses would move the ball at will against the Colts' defense and score in bunches only for Manning to score in a minute to keep the Colts in games. They ended up winning a lot close shoot outs that year.

The Colts scored 435 points that year (fourth in the league and only 6 points behind the second place team) and only had a 47 point points differential for the year (or averaged winning games by 2.9 ppg). By comparison, the Pats had a 205 points points differential (or averaged winning games by 12.8 PPG) while scoring a whopping 518 points that year.
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Brady won it because he was the most valuable player in the NFL that year.



By a mile.
He was the best player and deserved Offensive Player of the Year. Manning was the MVP of his team that year by a mile.

I know the MVP has been bastardized to the best player award, but the 2010 Pats would have been a decent team with an average QB while the Colts would have been one of the worst teams if they had most other QBs besides Manning.

I think the MVP should go to the most valuable player, not the best player.
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