Bobs My Uncle

The Gronk injury on the point after attempt got me thinking ...... has this play become unnecessary? The success rate on these kicks must be in the 98%-99% range.

PatriotsInGA

Yes it is needed. When kickers stop missing extra points, then the answer will be no. But I have seen an extra point missed countless times each season.

dannydyn

Have you never seen a game won by one point?

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goheels22002

Gronkowski will probably learn how to block without breaking his arm. This is ridiculous.

RodThePat

A game won by one point in which the difference was a missed extra point? Aside from that Saints game in which Carney missed the PAT after a Stallworth TD in the last second, I can't really recall that happening in the NFL. And even if it does, it's an extremely rare occurrence.

He's not advocating that we just do away with the PAT, and so if you go down the field and score a TD you lead 6-0. From what he said, I think he's talking about just making the touchdown worth 7 points. If that were the case, the vast majority of games would still have turned out exactly the same way.

RodThePat

It pretty much never happens more than 20 times in a season, and seldom is the defining factor of a game.

rlcarr

OP might not be advocating that, but Belichick has. He's been quoted as saying the play is meaningless and they should either move the PAT line of scrimmage back so it's not as automatic or else get rid of it.

PatsWickedPissah

Agreed

But in addition the NFL has made many changes to speed up long running games so why wouldn't they want to save several minutes per game by eliminating the point after? Hello, Goodell!

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RodThePat

Just make it so the TD is still worth 6 points, but you can either accept the extra point without the need of a play, or try to go for two the same way it is now. That way, the element of strategy is still maintained, but the PAT is removed. Either that, or just make people have to go for 2 every time, which would make things far more exciting, in my opinion.

dannydyn

Maybe, but the extra point does add an extra element to the scoring play. Couple that with the 2-point conversion option, and now we're talking something even better. Of course the history behind this play dates back decades, and serves almost no importance at all these days. So I can agree, that eliminating the PAT while increasing the score on a TD to 7 points, would yield the same result. But otherwise, doing away with the point in the absence of scoring alternative, is not something I *personally* think, would make sense.

And just for argument's sake, there have been a couple of other occurrences:

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