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Very strange- I was in favor of both of these changes, and especially liked the IR change. The IR rejection, in particular, surprises me, since they've made no bones about working almost entirely for the benefit of the elite, highest paid players, and those are the guys who stand to most benefit from being able to come back in week 9. The only sort of rationale that I can come up with is that every player on IR = one more member earning a paycheck, but that doesn't really hold up to scrutiny in any meaningful way.
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Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
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A source told FOXSports.com the league office has sent notification to NFL executives that the rules proposals weren’t approved. The source also said the NFLPA unsuccessfully tried to get concessions from the NFL related to other negotiations in exchange for accepting the new trade and IR rules.
Another source told FOXSports.com that the proposed NFL rules changes were tied to a league proposal trying to amend in-season rules for practices. The NFLPA wasn’t going to accept the changes under those terms, the source said.
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Ir makes sense. You still get your salary if on ir correct? This assumed, it would certainly be in any severely injured players best interest to take the time heal fully. While fans (and coaches even) may want that elite talent back asap, the risk to the individual of returning at day, 75% for the playoffs would be much greater than waiting out the season and returning completely healed, healthy, and rehabbed. Hell, even if they don't get full compensation this would be in many players favor, assuming they are not long in tooth, so to speak.
Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
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Originally Posted by woolster22
Ir makes sense. You still get your salary if on ir correct? This assumed, it would certainly be in any severely injured players best interest to take the time heal fully. While fans (and coaches even) may want that elite talent back asap, the risk to the individual of returning at day, 75% for the playoffs would be much greater than waiting out the season and returning completely healed, healthy, and rehabbed. Hell, even if they don't get full compensation this would be in many players favor, assuming they are not long in tooth, so to speak.
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Well a "severely" injured player wouldn't be coming back after 6-8 weeks anyway.
If the player wants (in his limited nfl career span) to contribute to a potential championship season, to add to his personal stats/reputation, or to earn playing/achievement bonuses - he now can't do that per the nflpa.
Not sure how the details of the proposed rules were written (how much coercion a team could put on a player to come back early), but I think this decision does not reflect the majority of players view of these two rules (in isolation).
This is purely the nflpa trying to use these not so controversial changes as bargaining chips to get something else. Which although their right, is detrimental to the game as a whole (imo).
Frankly, I would like to see some of the players start up a separate union and elect better leadership than what they have.
(Aside - for my own info, does anyone know is membership by nfl players mandatory? If not, what is the participation percentage? ).
Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
This surprised me. They were highly beneficial changes for both parties....I still think the players have way too much control in this league and it winds me up. I couldn't give to hoots if the NFLPA or players didn't like this move...if this was the English Premier League the Football Association would say 'tough *****' and go do it anyway.
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Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
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This surprised me. They were highly beneficial changes for both parties....I still think the players have way too much control in this league and it winds me up. I couldn't give to hoots if the NFLPA or players didn't like this move...if this was the English Premier League the Football Association would say 'tough *****' and go do it anyway.
apparently you fail to grasp the concept of a union. if you would implement this without giving "two hoots" than why bother with a union at all? of course, over here in the "colonies" we should get more guidance from the english premier league.
Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
If you read the last line of the article, it states that the changes were linked to alterations of the rules around practice.
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The proposed rule changes were linked to changes to in-season practice rules, a source told FOXSports.com. Under that scenario, the NFLPA refused to accept.
Since we don't know what was being asked there, its hard to gauge why the NFLPA rejected these.
Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
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The proposed rule changes were linked to changes to in-season practice rules, a source told FOXSports.com. Under that scenario, the NFLPA refused to accept.
"The changes would have meant one step forward and one step back," NFL executive George Atallah said in an email to FOXSports.com.
I don't know what to make of mysterious "in-season practice rules" being included in the rule change and not (specifically) mentioned, but apparently they're the dealbreaker.
Re: NFLPA rejects rule changes for IR and trade deadline
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apparently you fail to grasp the concept of a union. if you would implement this without giving "two hoots" than why bother with a union at all? of course, over here in the "colonies" we should get more guidance from the english premier league.
That's my point? I understand fully what a Union is and I would be all for it if the union and it's representatives didn't have the level of control or the hold they do over the league.
I'm using the EPL as an example because it is the most watched and one of the most lucrative leagues in the world...the players within the league (and all professional leagues in Britain) aren't part of a union. They don't even get a say in what goes on.
I like the fact the NFL has a Union but I can't comprehend the level of control they have over simple league changes. It's pathetic. The NFL may as well bend over.
Players don't like it? They know where they can go. I'd play for pittance.
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