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After an 8-8 season that's a rather bold statement. Dream Team talk wasn't enough pressure for them i guess and even though i liked their offseason moves i think they still aren't in the same class with the teams that have real QBs. So guys...are the Eagles a future dynasty in the making?
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After an 8-8 season that's a rather bold statement. Dream Team talk wasn't enough pressure for them i guess and even though i liked their offseason moves i think they still aren't in the same class with the teams that have real QBs. So guys...are the Eagles a future dynasty in the making?
No, I don't agree with stirring the pot again during the offseason, particularly this close to TC. One would think that they'd have learned their lesson last year, although there are some differences between public expectation this year and last.
I do believe that the PHI Eagles are better than their record indicated last year, and I also think they will strongly compete for the division title in the NFCE in 2012, but idiotic comments about becoming a 'dynasty' also show some of the mentality as a team + the lack of cohesion that they have over there.
I think that Vick could have chosen his words a LOT better in this case, while still getting his point across that they have a great deal of potential in the upcoming year. Teams that haven't won anything at all should not be discussing possible dynasties.
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They need to get in line. The Jets are already a dynasty.
When you win a playoff game in the divisional round 2 out of the last 3 yrs, people (who are used to losing and have a low level of intelligence) tend to label you a dynasty. Makes sense, right?
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You guys have to remember to separate the HEADLINE from the QUOTE.
Headline: (written by ESPN to drive hits and stoke up controversy)
"Michael Vick sees Eagles dynasty"
Quote: "I think we have a chance to be that. I think we have a chance to develop a dynasty."
Exactly how many prevarications are in that short quote: "chance" twice and "to develop". And he goes on further:
""I think just getting to the postseason right now is our focus," he told Comcast SportsNet. "The Super Bowl is going to come if it's meant to happen. Some of the best teams have some of the best luck. Maybe we'll have some of that."
"if its meant to happen" "maybe we'll have some [luck]"
This is no where close to saying "this is the Dream Team" [V Young]. Admittedly, it is kind of silly to even utter the words dynasty if you havent won a game in the season yet, let alone won a playoff game or your 1st SB (the real first time you can start even thinking dynasty). But he put enough qualifications on it throughout all the pull quotes (and who knows what was left on the floor); that it is clear (to me anyway) he is just trying to be an leader to the team to tug at their emotions and sense of achievement by giving them a LONG TERM GOAL to get them focused on the now. - I dont see a lot to criticize when viewed that way.
BL: It is off season and mid-baseball season and ESPN needs hits to maintain advertising rates. they are just trying to create controversies where there aren't.
You guys have to remember to separate the HEADLINE from the QUOTE.
Headline: (written by ESPN to drive hits and stoke up controversy)
"Michael Vick sees Eagles dynasty"
Quote: "I think we have a chance to be that. I think we have a chance to develop a dynasty."
Exactly how many prevarications are in that short quote: "chance" twice and "to develop". And he goes on further:
""I think just getting to the postseason right now is our focus," he told Comcast SportsNet. "The Super Bowl is going to come if it's meant to happen. Some of the best teams have some of the best luck. Maybe we'll have some of that."
"if its meant to happen" "maybe we'll have some [luck]"
This is no where close to saying "this is the Dream Team" [V Young]. Admittedly, it is kind of silly to even utter the words dynasty if you havent won a game in the season yet, let alone won a playoff game or your 1st SB (the real first time you can start even thinking dynasty). But he put enough qualifications on it throughout all the pull quotes (and who knows what was left on the floor); that it is clear (to me anyway) he is just trying to be an leader to the team to tug at their emotions and sense of achievement by giving them a LONG TERM GOAL to get them focused on the now. - I dont see a lot to criticize when viewed that way.
BL: It is off season and mid-baseball season and ESPN needs hits to maintain advertising rates. they are just trying to create controversies where there aren't.
I certainly agree with you here, Gumby. I think there are many differences between what he said and some of the idiotic comments from last year. I don't see it as that big of a deal as a whole.
However, I still think he could have chosen his words a little better, mainly by choosing to keep the word "dynasty" out of the eqaution altogether.
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Re: Vick : Eagles could become a dynasty
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Originally Posted by Gumby
I think you have to cut Vick a break here.
You guys have to remember to separate the HEADLINE from the QUOTE.
Headline: (written by ESPN to drive hits and stoke up controversy)
"Michael Vick sees Eagles dynasty"
Quote: "I think we have a chance to be that. I think we have a chance to develop a dynasty."
Exactly how many prevarications are in that short quote: "chance" twice and "to develop". And he goes on further:
""I think just getting to the postseason right now is our focus," he told Comcast SportsNet. "The Super Bowl is going to come if it's meant to happen. Some of the best teams have some of the best luck. Maybe we'll have some of that."
"if its meant to happen" "maybe we'll have some [luck]"
This is no where close to saying "this is the Dream Team" [V Young]. Admittedly, it is kind of silly to even utter the words dynasty if you havent won a game in the season yet, let alone won a playoff game or your 1st SB (the real first time you can start even thinking dynasty). But he put enough qualifications on it throughout all the pull quotes (and who knows what was left on the floor); that it is clear (to me anyway) he is just trying to be an leader to the team to tug at their emotions and sense of achievement by giving them a LONG TERM GOAL to get them focused on the now. - I dont see a lot to criticize when viewed that way.
BL: It is off season and mid-baseball season and ESPN needs hits to maintain advertising rates. they are just trying to create controversies where there aren't.
As a rule of thumb, when interviewed by the press sports athletes are supposed to offer perspective and be humble.
In my opinion, when he was asked the question if he thought that the Iggles had a chance to be a sports dynasty he should have said, "We need to make the playoffs first.".
Saying that the Iggles have a chance to be a sports dynasty can imply that he thinks this team is already a great team and needs to win more.
I agree that the Iggles have a boatload of talent and in theory should have been more than an 8-8 team.
As our local band has shown, talent is required to win championships, but grit, toughness, smarts and overcoming adversity is also required. All qualities the Iggles did not possess last year.
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