pherein

I think most NE fans should have closure about spygate. I would be surprise if the real fans of other teams didn't understand that NE was not the only team doing this. Yeah, it was wrong, but not out of place in the NFL, and the Patriots payed for it, and its over. From my perspective.
I actually find it laughable that any opposing fans, who understands BB coaching ability, thinks he even needed this edge. Or didn't notice that the team never suffered then it was gone.
Its the other fans that use this as ammunition, and the ones that don't care enough to check into it that keeps the wound open.
They constantly throwing of half trues, innuendo , and blatant slurs to anger NE fans and provoke them to relive it again and again. I know that now , and will completely understand it 3 years from now,lol.

I thought I told you kids not to play unsupervised at saintsreport, your really only going to hurt yourselves Some of it is pretty funny though.

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pherein

Hmm really we are like Vegas? lol. Granted politically we don't accept the party system as being american, and kind of do our own thing, but Im not sure we generate that kind of money, and Im positive our schools are not as good.

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PatsSox363804

Of course they do, I was having this argument with some of them yesterday. It's sickening.

thenepatsrule

Classy :applaud: no wonder you are well respected on this forum

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Patriot_in_NY

Post 58 in that thread is classic if you are a retro Star Wars fan.

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BradyFTW!

Probably, but the logic is still sound. This may or may not have happened, but it doesn't stop being conjecture just because ESPN reported it.

LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady

This news doesn't make me feel any better.

It makes me sick that all these players and fans of other teams are the first to jump up and trash the Patriots for being "cheaters" and whatever else they got to say about them, especially concerning Brady and Belichick. But when it comes to the Aints, everyone's quick to defend them and say it's no biggie and blah blah. That everybody's doing it.

I honestly think if the media and other players weren't so jealous of the Pats and their success that spygate wouldn't have been blown up in the way it was. All this crap really makes me sick. There's rumors about Brees not likely showing up to camp because he wants more $, the media and fans are defending him, saying he's worth it. if Brady pulled this stunt he'd be bashed and called 'distracted' or 'too hollywood' for the league. Just another example of why I haven't paid sports media any attention this offseason.

Jackson 2

Agreed. As I've mentioned before, I was at the game 3 years ago in NOLA when the Saints killed the Pats and, while there was plenty of good-natured ribbing, there was very little nasty stuff from Saints fans. In fact, the vast majority of their fans and the other people of the city were very welcoming and friendly knowing we were from NE. I'd go back in a second. Not to mention how great the music and food were, and there's no lack of great spots to imbibe, either. I feel bad for their fans who will bear the brunt of all of this stuff for years to come, whether their team deserves it or not.

stcjones

And......99.9% of those Saints fans piled on when it was the Pats "turn" to be witch hunted. "The EVERYONE is DOING it" phrase was used by two colleagues of mine that are NO fans the other day in response to the bounty scandal. Both of these guys jumped all over me when I used the Everyone does that when it applied to the stealing of signals deal.....which everyone DOES DO in pro football. Well of course I and 2 of my buds that are Pats fans had to remind them of that....and repay the "piling on" aspect. Now comes the newest "scandal"...and I can honestly say that I doubt many teams "wiretap" the opponents space.......wow....tough time to be a saints fan.

lurker1965

Congrats, sort of. Welcome to the knowledge that Godell overreacts based on what the media says. (E!SPN is the "media"; Fox sports still pretends to have journalistic integrity but is smaller -perhaps because of sticking to "facts". But I digress.)
Bad news for you is the witch hunt will continue as the Saints are the "evil" du jour. Anonymous sources will come forward telling how Brees was on the grassy knoll - Prove it is not true! Then on page 16, section W is the retraction or letter from the - what is the latin tittle of the ignored person that cares about ethics? (No it does not mean "pig lipstick applier" in latin.)
BTW, even if you go 16-0 you will not enjoy a single game. Sorry.

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