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Old 03-15-2012, 01:32 PM   #101
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Oh, okay. So he could potentially become a franchise QB at 30 years old, or he could regress to the mean, as he did halfway (note: 1/2 != 2/3) through last year.
Again, Fitz cracked some ribs when the Bills were 5-2. It's true.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:35 PM   #102
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Fitz cracked some ribs with a hit by London Fletcher when the Bills were 5-2. That's when he started to play bad. I find it hard to believe it a total coincidence.

Anyway, all this "Mario doesn't want to win" because he went to Buffalo is bogus. People act as though their teams were NEVER bad...guess what? They were, and I don't care who your team is: it's true across the board. THIS is how you create a winner, by assembling players like him. The Bills are a team on the rise.
Agreed that the Bills are on the rise, although most championship-winning franchises do it through the draft. We didn't draft well for three years. However, Fitzy has always coughed up the ball a whole lot, even when you thought there was no way he could lose the ball. If it's because of injuries then he's always injured, and you can't expect that to change because the fanbase is optimistic about a DE signing. I've heard a lot of "as long as so and so is healthy..." the fact is that you're going to have injuries. The winning mentality overcomes adversity.

I think it's a confidence issue with Fitzpatrick. Injuries are excuses until you're on the IR.
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I am not at all threatened by the Bills. Fitzpatrick can make all the throws but he is a gambler, and he will let you down too. Way too inconsistent for my blood. He's got some Romo in him.

As for the Bills coming back to compete, the trouble starts with Ralph Wilson and moves on down through the organization. He cheaps out in the front office, and then you see what happens. One horrible draft after another.

The Bills can't draft, and that's why they are bad.

And I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Again, Fitz cracked some ribs when the Bills were 5-2. It's true.
Surely something that has never happened before in the NFL.
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Fitz cracked some ribs with a hit by London Fletcher when the Bills were 5-2. That's when he started to play bad. I find it hard to believe it a total coincidence.

Anyway, all this "Mario doesn't want to win" because he went to Buffalo is bogus. People act as though their teams were NEVER bad...guess what? They were, and I don't care who your team is: it's true across the board. THIS is how you create a winner, by assembling players like him. The Bills are a team on the rise.
When Tony Romo cracked his rib, he started playing better.
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The numbers are insane, lot of money to tie up for 6 years...

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source with knowledge of the contract tells PFT that the deal has a base value of $96 million over six years, including $25 million fully guaranteed on signing. Another $25 million is guaranteed for injury on signing, and the money will become fully guaranteed at a later date.

The deal can be worth as much as $100 million
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The Patriots are clearly the best team in position to break your Super Bowl record!
Actually, 4 teams have 4 Super Bowl losses, and New England is one of those teams. Then there is Buffalo, Minnesota, and Denver. Whichever of the four teams losses the next one will have the record. I rooting for ya.

Even though it's a four-way tie, I'd give the crown to the Bills, who lost their 4 back-to-back. Minnesota is also 0-4 in the Super Bowl.
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What would lead you to believe that the Patriots didn't kick the tires?
Why does one think $16mm per year is outrageous? We might have to pay Welker $11mm to stay. Look at what VJax got. I am sorry but it is cheaper than I thought Mario would go.

Now tell me if trading for Jared Allen at $11.6m this year is crazy?! He has two years left $11.6 million in 2012 and $14.3 million in 2013. Redo his contract for two more to spread that out and you have a 6'6" 270 lbs DE younger than Carter, bigger than Anderson and more sacks than both combined so it is not. He has been very durable. A one and a three could get that done(?) as rumor has it. Why? The Vikes shipped out three established older players and are rebuilding with youth. Although not decrepit, Allen at 30 has some years left at a high level. He is not going to see a playoff with the Lions, Bears and Packers in the Vikes way for some time.

The Vikes two biggest needs are OT and WR.

The Vikes desperately need a top WR to go with slot WR Harvin. The Vikes get OT Kalil at their first pick and take our #1 and go get Mike Wallace who is tendered but they now have room to pay him, for a tandem with Ponder. It won't send a negative to their fan base if they week Wallace. They also have some very decent youth at DE, so Allen has some pieces behind him on that roster. They have made some CAP room and if the move Allen, some more. The can fetch something with our third as well.

The Pats wind up with Allen and a first, two seconds and a fourth and it appears a couple of depth pieces for 2012 from FA. I am all in that deal.

Allen is younger than Vince.

One can dream.
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A couple quick observations:

* The Bills likely will leapfrog the Green Beans as the Pats' biggest divisional threat. They definitely should be better on offense (if their offensive line can be solidified) and their defense is going to be tougher.

* All this talk about the Bills' "rabid fan base" in the wake of the Mario signing makes me laugh. Anyone who's been to a game there in the last few years can see that it now comprises MOSTLY very young people -- teens and twentysomethings -- who drink lots of beer and get in on cheap single-game tickets. The perpetual availability of season tickets and ongoing dalliance with Toronto also are tell-tale.

Signing Williams was a desperation move to appease a slowly disintegrating fan base.
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If Fitzpatrick doesn't work out, they could always trade for Tim Tebow
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