RIpats88

Im not sure anyone is saying "dont take luck" but this idea that luck is a surefire hit and the next elite QB is a stretch..he very well may be, and he very well may not be.

I think most people are questioning kicking a surefire HOF QB out the door while dragging him through the dirt on the way. To pick up what "MAY" be the next best thing is the wrong way to handle the situation.

look, I have no problem with the Colts wanting to look at the future and move on from manning..but theres a right and a wrong way to handle this...and Irsay is handeling this the wrong way in my opinion

like I said, imagine when the time comes, Kraft calling brady a "politician" in the media and kicking him on his way out....this colts organization is dysfunctional.

AndyJohnson

That is not my view.
I think the Colts have to move on from Manning, because they put themselves in the position with that contract to have to pay 28,000,000 without any assiurance he can ever play again.
However, I also think they should trade the 1st pick because with the new roolkie cap they will get record setting value for it, and can use that to rebuild a woeful roster rather than set the #1 QB up to fail with a poor team around him.
Luck's chance of being a good QB will be severly hampered if he becomes a Colt.

ctpatsfan77

Taking that out of the equation, though, I still don't see why it was far more likely that the Patriots would let Brady walk after the 2010 season. . . .

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Deus Irae

Because the Patriots are/were more likely to stick to a budget, and BB is considered to be much more bloodless when it comes to cutting/trading big names.

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Wolfpack

Yeah, you may have heard of it. It's probably the most prestigious individual award out there.
You're putting words in my mouth. I would take everything on a case-by-case basis, depending on what other teams offered me.
Wow. Constantly trading down in the draft to get more picks. Gee, I sure can't think of any team who uses that strategy year in and year out. Nope, sure can't. Nobody I know is constantly trading down. Nope. Nobody.

Gwedd

That's not far off from what happened to Drew when he was drafted by New England. Imagine how much better his career might have been, maybe even to winning a Superbowl, if he'd had a solid O-line to consistently protect him?

True enough, Bledsoe had his faults. he could and did hold onto the ball too long, or try and make a play when absolutely no one was open, but he also spent an awful lot of time flat on his back courtesy of some defensive player and as often as not it was because the O-Line let him by/through/etc.

I happen to agree with you that it would make a LOT more sense to beef up the Colts as a solid team before bringing in a new QB and throwing him to the wolves.

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ctpatsfan77

OTOH, that's ignoring that BB has said that some players are "priceless," as it were, when it comes to a trade, and that Brady was not solely concerned with getting paid. [Obviously, if the Pats were offering him, say, just $10M/yr, I could understand it.]

It also suggests the obvious questions of "Who would they have had start instead?" and "Would Belichick survive the inevitable fan uprising?"

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JustEndTheSeason

Sad if true. Big fan of watching Manning play, and nothing is better than Colts Patriots games. Seeing him in a Dolphins jersey or something won't be nearly as cool... if he ever plays again. Hope he does.

MoLewisrocks

I've been following this Colts season and transition closely and the latest beyond Manning may be done is that they have completely turned over the FO and coaching staff going largely with first timers or short timers from wildly talented teams and they appear headed for a transition to a 3-4 defense on top of all the other changes... You gotta walk before you run, so this could be beyond interesting. They have so few personnel who could in some fashion be transitioned out of that Tampa 2 defense that was already pretty pourous and in need of upgrading. And they are set to lose some veteran pieces on an offense that Arians will likely try to maintain (he was Manning's QB coach his first 3 seasons and a Tom Moore disciple versed in the simplistic but talent centric timing offense - one reason the Rooney's decided to move on). But unless they can run the ball, and they aren't currently built to, they better be able to pass protect, and they haven't done a great job of that for a couple of years now.

MoLewisrocks

I thought back in early September when he hadn't practiced there was a real possibility he would never make it back. I think that is now a more likely scenario. He's a competitor and he may decide not to quit given the uncertain nature of his predicament (nerve regeneration that can take two months to two years or never occur). I could see him taking a sabatical as an analyst while he continues to work on his own with the goal still making a comeback for 2-3 more seasons after 2012. But it will get less likely to happen over that time span. Brady knew in February 2009 he was good to go and come back at least as good if not potentially better (given his drive for perfection) than ever. He lost a season, but not a year. Manning has been out a whole year now unable to work on anything but rehab stuff, and he still doesn't know if he can come back at any level. I think by the time he figures out he can, if that time even comes, he may have been gone too long and have resigned himself to moving on.

He's not there yet, but by the time camps open, whether he says it or not if he isn't ready he won't be back. It is sad to see the great ones go out with a whimper and too soon, but he's had quite a run and since the twins arrived I think he's gained some perspective. Football still matters to him, but it's not all that matters anymore.