02-05-2011, 07:49 AM
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central MA by way of the great state of New Hampshire
Re: Ochocinco vs. Goodell
Originally Posted by Rob0729
Come on! The players are not blue collar workers working for minimum wage. This a case of millionaires vs. billionaires.
The fact of the matter is there are valid arguments and greedy self interests on both sides. The current CBA about to expire is bad for the growth of the NFL in the future. The players are taking a stand that is bad for the growth of the league and the owners are asking for too much back. They need to find a middle ground to benefit both. The owners are right about a rookie cap since it many season veterans end up ending their career earlier than they want or have to play for the veteran minimum when they can still provide value because unproven rookies instantly become among the highest paid players in the NFL when they come into the league.
Neither side really cares about the retired players who didn't make tens of millions playing in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and early 90s. Both pay lip service for PR
reasons, but if both organizations had their way without any PR
fallout, the old former players who bodies are destroyed and struggling to live on their pension would be screwed by both sides.
I understand why some people always back the unions and the workers in most disputes with ownership, but the players' union is not a real union. It is a group of mostly really rich people who battle with a group of people who are just significantly richer. The only group who really are the needy people who desperately need aid from a new CBA (former players who played before salaries became huge or were just at the bottom of the roster their entire career) don't have a huge say in the negotiations because the side that is there to defend them have them low on their priorities.
Agreed. I just want football and the league and players to agree on a financial model that makes long-term sense.
However, this whole issue lacks perspective. Currently, even the low wage UFAs players are making $150k + or - . In the event of a strike, they need to get on COBRA or find a regular job like us that offers health care or get on unemployment insurance.
With the exception of the older players who have millions of dollars of medical expenses that were directly attributed to playing in the league, I do have a deep amount of sympathy for them. But for today's owners and players-Nope.
“I'm not really concerned about the other 31 teams,” - Bill Belichick
"If a player has talent and doesn't succeed, that means that they either don't want to be successful or I have failed as a coach." - Bill Belichick
Last edited by robertweathers; 02-05-2011 at 09:51 AM..