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Old 01-09-2011, 08:08 PM   #21
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Yeah, I was shocked no one made a big deal about that when it happened. It was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen, and the TV guys just shrugged it off like no big deal.

I would have loved to listen to Manning if he was mic'd up for that.
He'd still have been busy throwing the receiver under the bus.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:10 PM   #22
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He'd still have been busy throwing the receiver under the bus.
Well now he can throw his coach too. And the OL. And running backs. And defense.
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I agree the time-out was stupid, but the stupidest play was when they decided to go for a passing attempt on 3rd and 7 with 1:02 left (check me on all these numbers) while in field goal territory.

They should have ran the ball and forced the Jets to take their second time-out. I don't know if this is a call from Manning, Caldwell, or Moore. It was mind boggling and isn't getting the attention it deserves.
Both teams did their best to screw up the game at the end.

The Colts defender ran into the kicker and extended the Jets second to last drive.

Then, on 3rd and 5, the idiot Jets threw a long bomb downfield.

The Colts got the ball back and drove to the red zone, then called a run on 3rd and long before their go ahead FG. Stupid, you pass there, I don't care if it worked for you the previous series.

Then Caldwell's timeout.

4 colossal mistakes inside of 3 minutes.
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Probably the worst in-game decision of the season, considering it was a playoff game.
A few thoughts. The Colt's first quarter challenge on the punt was a joke. I have no idea what the coaches in the booth were telling him but just b/c the returner makes a bone head decision doesn't mean you get to challenge it. I would have loved to see the game come down to a play and have the Colts out of challenges.

Also, did anyone see Spagnuolo in week 17. He has no concept of clock management and wasted at least 45 seconds with a full arsenal of timeouts to the joy of the 'Hawks who pleasantly relaxed going into the 2 minute warning. Indefensible but never was discussed since it quickly became a moot point.

Today's 2 pt conversion with Philly was a gem. Like no one, except 1 lone random official, had the wherewithal to think that the Eagles got another try since - gasp - the penalty was not a loss of down variety. How does Fox blindly roll into a commercial without a comment on this? It reflects poorly on Reid who apparently didn't object until it was brought to his attention, but after all, he coached McNabb for 10+ yrs without ever mentioning that a playoff game couldn't end in a tie.

Overall, coaches have a lot on their plate. But certain things are simply shocking. Reid, Caldwell and Spagnuolo for example.

Other things out there are head scratchers but admittedly come down to players just probably not thinking - although the coaches should be in their ear before each play. Why does Arkansas bounce on a blocked kick when it is completely irrelevant who gains possession on a 4th down? Why does a lineman catch a deflected pass in his endzone for a safety? In college, maybe some of the kids get a pass but in the pros its just shocking.

BB has always prepared Patriots for situational football. And other than passing up that field goal attempt in the 08 SB, I've never questioned anything he ever did during a game.
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The timeout played no part in the Jets winning, and the QB still made a lousy pass. He was simply bailed out by his receiver.
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The Jets wanted to run the ball before using their last timeout and then let Folk kick a 50 yarder because Folk told Ryan he was feeling good about kicking that distance.

Low and behold, Caldwell calls the timeout and the Jets get time to think again and call a pass.

Utter stupidity by Caldwell.
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The Jets wanted to run the ball before using their last timeout and then let Folk kick a 50 yarder because Folk told Ryan he was feeling good about kicking that distance.

Low and behold, Caldwell calls the timeout and the Jets get time to think again and call a pass.

Utter stupidity by Caldwell.
The Jets would have been kicking a field goal either way, and it was first down. There's no way of knowing whether the distance would have mattered. For that matter, with it having been first down, there's no way of knowing how many yards the Jets would have gained on the ground setting up the field goal.
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Caldwell hadn't blinked for an hour and dust gathered on his eyeballs, he couldn't see the clock. To much crowd noise being pumped in maybe another factor.
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The Jets would have been kicking a field goal either way, and it was first down. There's no way of knowing whether the distance would have mattered. For that matter, with it having been first down, there's no way of knowing how many yards the Jets would have gained on the ground setting up the field goal.
I am not arguing that. Just that the Colts made it easier on the Jets by calling that timeout.
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Caldwell explained that the Colts hoped the Jets would run the ball, burning more clock, or Indianapolis could force a turnover or make a defensive play that would take New York out of field-goal range.
Does Jim know that if he doesn't call a timeout there, that the clock would have kept running?

Caldwell should have forced the Jets to either use their last timeout there or make them run the no huddle. A big play is less likely and a mistake is more likely from the no huddle. If the Jets lose their last timeout, a lot of things could go wrong. For instance, a similar situation to the Pats/GB game could happen. Let's say the jets fail to get out of bounds on third down. Then they have to run the field goal unit on the field and get the field goal off in a rush.

The timeout by Caldwell is indefensible IMO.
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Was watching the game with my 10yo son (who doesn't get a chance to see many football games). Towards the end and out of the blue, he comes out with "that guy always looks like he's going to cry" when he sees the Peyton Manning face. Me and the guy next to me in the bar were laughing our azzes off.
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