OT: Bucs trade Gaines Adams, former #4 overall, to Bears - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

jmt57 · 10-17-2009, 12:31 AM

Somebody at Rotoworld doesn't like Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator: Gaines Adams

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While Bucs GM Mark Dominik mails in the season by dealing off his most gifted pass rusher and nearing insertion of an underclassman rookie QB, Bears GM Jerry Angelo is in the talent acquisition business. Trading first-day picks isn't advised, except when the return is a 26-year-old with dominating ability and a contract through 2012. Jim Bates, who's clearly lost his touch, couldn't get enough out of Adams in his first season as Bucs defensive coordinator. It's a good bet that Bears defensive line coach Rod Marinelli will.

BennyBledsoe · 10-17-2009, 12:40 AM

Hmmmm, I somewhat doubt he would have found a home in New England (that is, if people were entertaining the idea of why didn't the Patriots trade for him). I don't know if he's got the skillset to stand up as a LB...in a 3-4 if that's the way BB truly wants to roll.

I suppose if he decided to go full-out 4-3, then Adams could have been worth a look.

All depends what BB's most committed to...if anything!

***KontradictioN*** · 10-17-2009, 01:04 AM

Should we give him a loo... oh wait, nevermind, he went to the Bears.

ElReyDeLosReyes · 10-17-2009, 10:46 AM

I wonder how he would have done if he would have gone to a 3-4 defense.

***cstjohn17*** · 10-17-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BennyBledsoe

Hmmmm, I somewhat doubt he would have found a home in New England (that is, if people were entertaining the idea of why didn't the Patriots trade for him). I don't know if he's got the skillset to stand up as a LB...in a 3-4 if that's the way BB truly wants to roll.

I suppose if he decided to go full-out 4-3, then Adams could have been worth a look.

All depends what BB's most committed to...if anything!

That is ridiculous, he may not be a pure OLB but either was Vrabel or McGinest. He is a player with high upside and is cheap. Great deal for the Bears. Fans tend to overrate draft picks, there were people whining when the Pats traded a 2nd for Welker. Look at the Pats 2nd rounders, Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson, etc. the success rate is 50% that the player even becomes an average starter.

Salary info:
2009: $900,000, 2010: $1.08 million, 2011: $1.1 million, 2012: $1.15 million, 2013:
Gaines Adams

Look at the junk the Patriots have at OLB/DE:

TBC - JAG, free agent after this season
Burgess - washed up hack, free agent after this season
Green - JAG, pushing 30, free agent after this season
Woods - not even good enough to be a JAG, free agent after this season (might be an RFA)
Guyton - solid player, not proven at OLB
Thomas - over 30, under achiever, salary of greater than 9.5M for the next two seasons
Ninkovich - should be a grocery clerk some where

Stack Adams up against that pile of junk and he may even be the cream of the crop. Putting the list down, actually typing it out really hurts. I doubt that there is a less talented group of OLB/DEs in the NFL. No wonder the pass rush stinks.

ElReyDeLosReyes · 10-17-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cstjohn17

That is ridiculous, he may not be a pure OLB but either was Vrabel or McGinest. He is a player with high upside and is cheap. Great deal for the Bears. Fans tend to overrate draft picks, there were people whining when the Pats traded a 2nd for Welker. Look at the Pats 2nd rounders, Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson, etc. the success rate is 50% that the player even becomes an average starter.

Salary info:
2009: $900,000, 2010: $1.08 million, 2011: $1.1 million, 2012: $1.15 million, 2013:
Gaines Adams

Look at the junk the Patriots have at OLB/DE:

TBC - JAG, free agent after this season
Burgess - washed up hack, free agent after this season
Green - JAG, pushing 30, free agent after this season
Woods - not even good enough to be a JAG, free agent after this season (might be an RFA)
Guyton - solid player, not proven at OLB
Thomas - over 30, under achiever, salary of greater than 9.5M for the next two seasons
Ninkovich - should be a grocery clerk some where

Stack Adams up against that pile of junk and he may even be the cream of the crop. Putting the list down, actually typing it out really hurts. I doubt that there is a less talented group of OLB/DEs in the NFL. No wonder the pass rush stinks.

WOAH. What a cheap contract for a guy who still has HUGE upside. Wow.

cupofjoe1962 · 10-17-2009, 11:50 AM

Chicago now does not have a pick in the 2010 draft until the third round.

Denver has their 1st round pick from the Cutler trade.
Tampa now has their 2nd round pick.

I would offer them one of our 2nd round picks for their 1st in 2011.

***Calciumee*** · 10-17-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cupofjoe1962

Chicago now does not have a pick in the 2010 draft until the third round.

Denver has their 1st round pick from the Cutler trade.
Tampa now has their 2nd round pick.

I would offer them one of our 2nd round picks for their 1st in 2011.

Meaning we would have 3 first rounders in 2011, and we know how BB likes to trade down, so we could end up with 20 picks

cupofjoe1962 · 10-17-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Calciumee

Meaning we would have 3 first rounders in 2011, and we know how BB likes to trade down, so we could end up with 20 picks

Then we trade the Bears #1 in 20011, for a #2 in 2011 & a #1 in 2012.
This is what we got from Baltimore when we let them trade up to draft
Kyle Boller a few years back.

***DaBruinz*** · 10-19-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BennyBledsoe

Hmmmm, I somewhat doubt he would have found a home in New England (that is, if people were entertaining the idea of why didn't the Patriots trade for him). I don't know if he's got the skillset to stand up as a LB...in a 3-4 if that's the way BB truly wants to roll.

I suppose if he decided to go full-out 4-3, then Adams could have been worth a look.

All depends what BB's most committed to...if anything!

Adams came out of college having played BOTH DE in the 4-3 and OLB in the 3-4. I followed him for 2 years hoping he'd fall to the Pats because he's got the skills to fit into the Pats system. He didn't and went 4th overall to the Bucs who really REACHED for him. Most people thought Adams was a mid 1st round pick.

With the Bears getting Adams, I wonder if Mark Anderson is available. He'd be a great addition to the Pats as a 4-3 DE.