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Old 09-09-2009, 08:51 AM   #1
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This is an interesting article (link below), using stats to make a point that has been made without stats often both in the media and here. What's your take on it? We've been spending a lot of time here, rightly so, on the Seymour trade, but TB is the man.

Referring to the games beginning with the Eagles game in 2007 up to and including the hit in the Chiefs game last year, the article observes “He’s getting sacked about once every 20 attempts.... That’s borderline for safety. And then he’s been hit another 25 or 30 times. He’s getting significant contact once every 8.5 times he drops back. That can’t continue."

The article suggests that this isn't on the O line, but rather on how teams have decided to defense the Pats. Whatever the cause, the odds of injury, whether minor (like the Haynesworth hit) or major (like the knee), go up. Suggests to me that the running game and backfield passes will become more important this year.

(BTW. If someone disagrees with the articles' stats, please give us a source that can help us refute them rather than just saying "they're wrong.")


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Old 09-09-2009, 09:05 AM   #2
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Wow, the end of that article was so depressing. We're dooooomed.
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This is an interesting article (link below), using stats to make a point that has been made without stats often both in the media and here. What's your take on it? We've been spending a lot of time here, rightly so, on the Seymour trade, but TB is the man.

Referring to the games beginning with the Eagles game in 2007 up to and including the hit in the Chiefs game last year, the article observes “He’s getting sacked about once every 20 attempts.... That’s borderline for safety. And then he’s been hit another 25 or 30 times. He’s getting significant contact once every 8.5 times he drops back. That can’t continue."

The article suggests that this isn't on the O line, but rather on how teams have decided to defense the Pats. Whatever the cause, the odds of injury, whether minor (like the Haynesworth hit) or major (like the knee), go up. Suggests to me that the running game and backfield passes will become more important this year.

(BTW. If someone disagrees with the articles' stats, please give us a source that can help us refute them rather than just saying "they're wrong.")


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I read this article too and thought it brought up a valid point.

There was a thread somewhere in here that talked about how we would defend against an increased number of blitzes as teams try to go after what they perceive to be the weakness in the Pats offense, collapsing the pocket.

But the blitz is what Brady feeds on, so that is not really the issue here. The issue here is that I believe they will focus on trying to collapse the pocket asap, by sending pressure up the middle.

It will be interesting to see how the Patriots counter this, perhaps with more max protect sets.
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This is part of the reason Baker was signed and Matthews acquired

in a trade.
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That was a tremendously insightful piece. Who says you can't get anything meaningful out of BB and this team. And stats aside he does get hit too much and it does have to stop if he's gonna be here for another 10 years (or so...). Glad BB realizes that. And from some of his recent comments it would appear Tommy realizes that too. Now all that's left is to figure out the best way to accomplish that while still winning games.
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This is part of the reason Baker was signed and Matthews acquired

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And why there was a 100% turnover of interior OL reserves, and may be why there are so many on the roster to start the season.
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A part of the reason Brady gets hit so much is because of Brady. Brady is willing to sacrifice himself to hold onto the ball for an extra second or two to allow the receiver get open. There are many times he holds onto the ball forever with great protection, but even great protection can work so long.

It is part of what makes Brady great, but there is a risk to it.
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Also liked the comments by BB about Brady, look at their prep.

No wonder Daniels being around TFB wasn't thrilled by Cutler's attitude.
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I don't understand how an article can just toss out stats like those without giving you league averages, or at least comparisons to other elite QBs, to compare with. Without any context, I have absolutely no idea how to interpret those numbers.
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I don't understand how an article can just toss out stats like those without giving you league averages, or at least comparisons to other elite QBs, to compare with. Without any context, I have absolutely no idea how to interpret those numbers.
Nitpicker, this isn't about stats, it's about horsepower, deadhorsepower.
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