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carolinatony · 01-11-2009, 03:40 PM

As if we didn't already know....Watching the Ravens and Eagles I was impressed by their D's. They both take the ball away as well.

I hope we go all defense in this years draft.

***Deus Irae*** · 01-11-2009, 04:00 PM

The Cardinals and their offense say "Hello".

eternal · 01-11-2009, 04:02 PM

Watching these teams showed me how deficient the Pats D was this season in comparison to BAL, PIT, PHI, TEN, and what it takes to have a dominant one. It also shows how few teams have a very good, or better D.
Is it because most teams focus on having balance in every phase of the game, eventhough it's common knowledge that excellent D historically leads to playoff wins? Or is it more because of the modern NFL rules favor offense so much that it's overwhelmingly difficult to have a D that hold opponents to 17 or less a game?
I would like to think that rules/competition committee would try to make the rules so that special teams , D and O all have as equal influence to the outcome of the game. Things like allowing a D player to have radio, and the no force out rule are good things I hope will continue.
I'm probably in the minority, but I like 13-10 games. They are usually well played in all aspects. When I see a 38-37 game, yeah it might be exciting, but all I can think of is "Man, these D's suck!".
Depending on what they get for MC, there could be some good D picks. If they could get someone ( I don't care what D position) that has even a 70% impact of what Mayo has had, it will be a huge boost. That's what I am hoping for.

***mayoclinic*** · 01-11-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eternal

Watching these teams showed me how deficient the Pats D was this season in comparison to BAL, PIT, PHI, TEN, and what it takes to have a dominant one. It also shows how few teams have a very good, or better D.
Is it because most teams focus on having balance in every phase of the game, eventhough it's common knowledge that excellent D historically leads to playoff wins? Or is it more because of the modern NFL rules favor offense so much that it's overwhelmingly difficult to have a D that hold opponents to 17 or less a game?
I would like to think that rules/competition committee would try to make the rules so that special teams , D and O all have as equal influence to the outcome of the game. Things like allowing a D player to have radio, and the no force out rule are good things I hope will continue.
I'm probably in the minority, but I like 13-10 games. They are usually well played in all aspects. When I see a 38-37 game, yeah it might be exciting, but all I can think of is "Man, these D's suck!".
Depending on what they get for MC, there could be some good D picks. If they could get someone ( I don't care what D position) that has even a 70% impact of what Mayo has had, it will be a huge boost. That's what I am hoping for.

Watching other defenses, I've been struck by how passive and reactive our defense has become the past few years. It just seems that we don't generate the kind of pressure and disruption that we did during the championship years, much less the kind of pressure and disruption that the top defenses do - Baltimore, Pittsburgh, the Giants, etc. I don't know if it's because of Peas' approach or because of aging personnel, or both. I hope that our #1 priority in the offseason is rebuilding the defense into more of an attacking unit.

carolinatony · 01-11-2009, 04:08 PM

We need a Impact DB and someone to be able to rush the QB .
Get rid of Maroney and our O is fine.
With a healthy Brady back; maybe we can get a #1 for Cassell and have 2 solid 1st round picks.

lamafist · 01-11-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eternal

Is it because most teams focus on having balance in every phase of the game, even though it's common knowledge that excellent D historically leads to playoff wins?

As it happens, the "common knowledge" turns out to be just plain wrong. Having a top-ranked defense hasn't shown any stronger of a correlating relationship with postseason success than having a top-ranked offense. In fact, if anything, the opposite is true.

carolinatony · 01-11-2009, 04:13 PM

As it happens, the "common knowledge" turns out to be just plain wrong. Having a top-ranked defense hasn't shown any stronger of a correlating relationship with postseason success than having a top-ranked offense. In fact, if anything, the opposite is true.

You may be right but I think most Pats fans will agree our defense the last 2 years was not up to our SB years.

***BelichickFan*** · 01-11-2009, 04:14 PM

Scoring more points wins. It can be done with any combination of defense and offense.

***maverick4*** · 01-11-2009, 04:17 PM

I agree, tough defense wins. Keep McDaniels out of the draft room, or let's hope he takes a new job.

Build up a new cast of dominating, suffocating elite defensive players.

We are not the soft, whiny, stats-obsessed Colts, no matter how many Pats fans lose the way and convert. We are built on a dynasty predicated on tough, intelligent DEFENSE.

DisgruntledTunaFan · 01-11-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carolinatony

As if we didn't already know....Watching the Ravens and Eagles I was impressed by their D's. They both take the ball away as well.

I hope we go all defense in this years draft.

No-Chris Johnson's loss was a HUGE blow to the Titans' O, and Eli couldn't hit a barn door worth a darn.