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upstater1 · 12-18-2008, 09:33 AM

Edwards returning to Bills lineup; gives lift to Jauron : Sports : The Buffalo News

Edwards wasn't playing well before he was injured, and maybe the inury was a factor. Still, he's better than Losman.

Shaughnessy said that most NFL players would not want to play for Tom Coughlin. Bill Belichick came in second on the dreaded coach list.

What can we conclude? Most NFL players do not care about winning.

Isn't that obvious?

I've been a fan of UConn's Jim Calhoun for a longtime, and similarly he always comes last in these popularity contests. He's been at UConn for 20 years now. His team is, once again, ranked in the top 5. He has the most players and most All-Stars of any school currently playing in the NBA right now. So, he wins and he produces top notch pros. Why wouldn't you want to play for him? Because he yells at you. LOL.

xmarkd400x · 12-18-2008, 09:44 AM

Would you rather have

1) A 10 year career where you made ~50 million dollars, but only made the playoffs a handful of times, never won a SB (Say, Junior Seau).

2) Or, would you rather a 3 year career where you were a contributor on an SB winning team, but only made ~4 million dollars.

Now, remember some things.
- You pretty much have no skills aside from football (You can't go back to the office job you are supposed to be doing while reading this post)
- You will have made 95% of the money you will make in your life by the time you are 28. (4M = 100k/yr for 40 years. Essentially the same as a well paid professional; comfortable life, but not extravagant)

Personally, I'd choose the money. I think a lot of players play for the paycheck and try to not get hurt so they can earn more money. As a person, I don't have a problem with that. As a fan, I see 31 other teams they can be on.

PatsFan2 · 12-18-2008, 09:54 AM

Good he's worse than JP Lostman and he's also made of glass...if the Patriots lose the final game of the season they have no businsess in the playoffs. Buffalo Bills = doormats of AFC...The Bills Game is one game i am not worried about.

Pats 50

Bill 3

Peekaboo · 12-18-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Edwards returning to Bills lineup; gives lift to Jauron : Sports : The Buffalo News

Edwards wasn't playing well before he was injured, and maybe the inury was a factor. Still, he's better than Losman.

Shaughnessy said that most NFL players would not want to play for Tom Coughlin. Bill Belichick came in second on the dreaded coach list.

What can we conclude? Most NFL players do not care about winning.

Isn't that obvious?

I've been a fan of UConn's Jim Calhoun for a longtime, and similarly he always comes last in these popularity contests. He's been at UConn for 20 years now. His team is, once again, ranked in the top 5. He has the most players and most All-Stars of any school currently playing in the NBA right now. So, he wins and he produces top notch pros. Why wouldn't you want to play for him? Because he yells at you. LOL.

Sad but true. This is why the Bills players are defending Jauron as head coach. It's like Club Med over there at One Bills Drive. The coach has a care free attitude and it carried over to the players. As fans, that's the most gut wrenching, sickening thing to see. This franchise is going down faster than a bum picking up a $100 dollar bill. The worst part of it is the owner doesn't care either. He won't open his wallet for a winning coach or for any free agents that will make a difference. I said this in another thread, the only way things change in Orchard Park is if Ralph Wilson dies.

Peekaboo · 12-18-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFan2

Good he's worse than JP Lostman and he's also made of glass...if the Patriots lose the final game of the season they have no businsess in the playoffs. Buffalo Bills = doormats of AFC...The Bills Game is one game i am not worried about.

Pats 50

Bill 3

I wouldn't go that far. You're forgetting about KC, Oakland and Cincinnati.

upstater1 · 12-18-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xmarkd400x

Would you rather have

1) A 10 year career where you made ~50 million dollars, but only made the playoffs a handful of times, never won a SB (Say, Junior Seau).

2) Or, would you rather a 3 year career where you were a contributor on an SB winning team, but only made ~4 million dollars.

Now, remember some things.
- You pretty much have no skills aside from football (You can't go back to the office job you are supposed to be doing while reading this post)
- You will have made 95% of the money you will make in your life by the time you are 28. (4M = 100k/yr for 40 years. Essentially the same as a well paid professional; comfortable life, but not extravagant)

Personally, I'd choose the money. I think a lot of players play for the paycheck and try to not get hurt so they can earn more money. As a person, I don't have a problem with that. As a fan, I see 31 other teams they can be on.

I can't agree with what you wrote. Not at all.

Let me give you one example: Tedy Bruschi has made a mint as a Patriot. I guarantee you that another coach would have cut him a long while ago, and he'd be earning the veteran minimum. Vrabel is the same. There are many on the Patriots who have done very well, and the Patriots do not cycle through players as much as most of the NFL. Patriots pay to the salary cap, so for the vast majority of players, there is no discrepancy here.

Faulk, Brady, Light, Seymour, Warren, Vrabel, Bruschi, Harrison. I bet you that you won't find more than 5 to 10 teams in this league that have had 8 players on the team for 6 years or more. Not many play for 10 years.

Not everyone is Junior Seau. This was a poll of all NFL players.

***BelichickFan*** · 12-18-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Shaughnessy said that most NFL players would not want to play for Tom Coughlin. Bill Belichick came in second on the dreaded coach list.

When I've seen those lists, Belichick usually makes the top five in both wanting and not wanting for players. A lot don't want to play for him but a lot do. OTOH, Coughlin usually is only on the bad list although that may change as he has a SB win now.

mike_usagisan · 12-18-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Peekaboo

I said this in another thread, the only way things change in Orchard Park is if Ralph Wilson dies.

But when that happens, it's sad to say, it's probably going to be the Toronto Bills full-time rather than part-time. So the choice for Bills fans is:

A) Losing team in Bufallo

B) A team with potential in another country

Fixit · 12-18-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xmarkd400x

Would you rather have

1) A 10 year career where you made ~50 million dollars, but only made the playoffs a handful of times, never won a SB (Say, Junior Seau).

2) Or, would you rather a 3 year career where you were a contributor on an SB winning team, but only made ~4 million dollars.

Now, remember some things.
- You pretty much have no skills aside from football (You can't go back to the office job you are supposed to be doing while reading this post)
- You will have made 95% of the money you will make in your life by the time you are 28. (4M = 100k/yr for 40 years. Essentially the same as a well paid professional; comfortable life, but not extravagant)

Personally, I'd choose the money. I think a lot of players play for the paycheck and try to not get hurt so they can earn more money. As a person, I don't have a problem with that. As a fan, I see 31 other teams they can be on.

Gimme a ring and $4M.

JSn · 12-18-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_usagisan

But when that happens, it's sad to say, it's probably going to be the Toronto Bills full-time rather than part-time. So the choice for Bills fans is:

A) Losing team in Bufallo

B) A team with potential in another country

I think that it's more likely Toronto will give birth to a new franchise. Exit polls showed a pretty even split between Bills and Dolphins fans at the game. A new NFL franchise here would probably help include Canadian universities in the draft and playing in a dome would be good for evening out competition between Northern and Southern teams, imo.