ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW
Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!
View Poll Results: The non-call on the last 4th down play was....
With respect to the poll question itself, the "5 yards" is irrelevant.
It is true that you can legally make contact within five yards of the LOS (until the ball is thrown). However, holding is prohibited everywhere. And that was most assuredly a hold.
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!
Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.
NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98
No way in hell do I want a refs to give the 49ers a victory, remember, they get a whole set of downs and they can milk the clock, on a questionable call. I saw contact on both players and it wasn't much, and those no calls happen all the time.
The throw was crap, he barely got it off. If the 49ers wanted to score they should have jammed the ball inside. You don't win by needing the refs. You win in spite of the refs.
This is why the Pats are crap lately. They do gimmick plays, they whine about one or two plays (wellker drops) and they fail to see the bigger picture. The game is, ultimately, won by the team most hungry to win. Tonight, and against the pats, the ravens were more hungry. The pats have no hunger, only gimmick strategy.
Go away, troll, go spill your stupid on someone else's eyes.
__________________ Ice_Ice_Brady writes:
The difference is that Brady calmly calls audibles while Manning flaps like a chicken, barks 11 code words, and makes sure every camera in the stadium has documented his once-in-a-generation (and patented, I believe) ability to see a defensive formation and change the play. Both have the same effect, but Manning transcends measurable human intellect while Brady merely chooses a different play.
They BOTH held eachother. Crabtree initiated the contact and looked like he tried to push off a bit. He also grabbed the DB's facemask a bit as well. In return, the Ravens player roughed him up a little, too. That's a good no-call.
They BOTH held eachother. Crabtree initiated the contact and looked like he tried to push off a bit. He also grabbed the DB's facemask a bit as well. In return, the Ravens player roughed him up a little, too. That's a good no-call.
I'm mystified.
Stipulating for argument's sake your above description is accurate, what in your interpretation of the rules would constitute pushing off or holding?
And why should the rules suddenly change? When would they change? Playoff game? AFC/NFC Championship game? SB? 1st QTR? 4th QTR??? There's a real problem with a sudden un-announced change in the refs' calls.
__________________
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck." RAH
I don't think it was all that bad. I grew up watching this kind of football. The play calling was awful. They slowed the game down, too, which they shouldn't have done. They should have kept their foot on the gas. It's PI or holding for sure, but that's playoff football pre-Polian and apparently post-Polian.
I always believe holding should be called and voted that way. That being said, this type of holding is routinely not called (particularly near the end of close games) and so it's not an egregious error. It is what the NFL is; the vast majority of holding isn't called and never will be.
The call was questionable, but it wasn't called. The only reason anyone is talking about it though is because it was at the end of the game. What about the wonderful acting job by the kicker on the running into the kicker penalty? No contact was actually made. What about the late hit on Flacco on 3rd and goal? No flag there. There were flags missed on both sides of the ball. The Ravens played better from wire to wire, never trailed, and won.