Charley Casserly's 4/13 Two-Rounder: Chandler Jones, Harrison Smith, Upshaw, B Brooks - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

manxman2601 · 04-14-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

Charley Casserly's picks for the New England Patriots are a joke.

I'd rather go the following route:

#27 Dont'a Hightower
#31 Kendall Reyes
#48 Ronnell Lewis or Bruce Irvin
#62 Alfonzo Dennard or Jamell Fleming

Now that is a VERY nice draft. Nice to see someone else recognising Ronnell Lewis in these parts, thought I was the only one.

ATippett56 · 04-14-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Now that is a VERY nice draft. Nice to see someone else recognising Ronnell Lewis in these parts, thought I was the only one.

I just posted my final mock in the Ye Official 2012 Mock Draft Thread. If McClellin is not available at #48 (most likely won't be), I'll take Ronnell Lewis or Bruce Irvin as a consolation prize.

VrabelJr · 04-14-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by everlong

Upshaw out of the first round is pretty radical. Lombardi the other night speculated on Baron to the Jags at #7 and I almost spit my drink out but then thought well they did take Tyson Alualu @ #10 two years back so even though I'd call that awful value who knows.

Have you ever seen Tyson Alualu play? The Jags picking him looks better and better each and every game. Alualu is a prime example of NFL teams and scouts knowing way more than Mock Drafters.

The Scrizz · 04-14-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

Charley Casserly's picks for the New England Patriots are a joke.

I'd rather go the following route:

#27 Dont'a Hightower
#31 Kendall Reyes
#48 Ronnell Lewis or Bruce Irvin
#62 Alfonzo Dennard or Jamell Fleming

Casserly is a joke. If the board actually fell in this demented way...

#27 McClellin
#31 Hightower
#48 Fleener. I don't give an F how many TE we already have. He won't last that long anyway.
#62 Crick via a slight trade up.

We're always looking for LB's, take the damn linebackers!

Upgrades the front 7, gives me one of my binkies in Fleener, and we can go DB in the 3rd.

Suck it Casserly!

everlong · 04-14-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VrabelJr

Have you ever seen Tyson Alualu play? The Jags picking him looks better and better each and every game. Alualu is a prime example of NFL teams and scouts knowing way more than Mock Drafters.

They still could have traded down and landed him 20 picks later and although a decent player I still don't know that I'd consider him living up to a top ten talent.

FredFromDartmouth · 04-14-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by State

He says we'll likely be trading down at one of our firsts. That seems almost expected my many.

#27 Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
#31 Harrison Smith FS Notre Dame
#48 Courtney Upshaw DE/OLB Alabama
#62 Brandon Brooks OG Miami of Ohio

NFL.com news: Two-round mock draft: No quarterbacks taken in second round

I'd be ecstatic if we could get Upshaw that late. I think Jones is more of a high second-rounder and would prefer Andre Branch. But this'll do, pig, this'll do.

I'm kind of astounded by the lack of CBs taken in the second round.

He makes a good point of the Jets looking to trade up to get SS Barron.

BTW, he has Irvin taken at #58. I can't believe that Clemson TE who is slow would be taken that high, though.

Casserly has to have his toupee on backwards if he thinks that Courtney Upshaw will last into the second round...

ZoisKing · 04-14-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FredFromDartmouth

Casserly has to have his toupee on backwards if he thinks that Courtney Upshaw will last into the second round...

I don't know. After watching a lot of Upshaw video, I see a guy who relies heavily on his bull rush. He doesn't have an advanced reportoire of pass rushing moves, and gets blocked fairly easily. He won't be able to take advantage of his physical ability as much in the pros.

Casserly isn't too far off in my opinion.

VrabelJr · 04-14-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by everlong

They still could have traded down and landed him 20 picks later and although a decent player I still don't know that I'd consider him living up to a top ten talent.

He's started every game of his two years in the league and is arguably the single bright spot on that Jaguars defensive line. Idk about you but there's nothing better than an immediate starter out of a top 10 pick, especially at DT/DE.

FredFromDartmouth · 04-15-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ZoisKing

I don't know. After watching a lot of Upshaw video, I see a guy who relies heavily on his bull rush. He doesn't have an advanced reportoire of pass rushing moves, and gets blocked fairly easily. He won't be able to take advantage of his physical ability as much in the pros.

Casserly isn't too far off in my opinion.

The remaining question I have for Casserly is this: Why the terrible toupee Charlie? We are all guys here; do don't care it you have a shiny dome--it would look better than that rug. Combine the rug with his truly dreadful voice (New Jersey accent?) and he is hard to watch/listen to.

SirApropos · 04-15-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by patsinthesnow

My problem with a OL in the first four rounds is, could they even make the team?

We are loaded there.

If BB keeps 9 OL on the 53:

T: Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, Nate Solder
G: Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Robert Gallery, Marcus Cannon
C: Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly

Unless Light or Waters retires a rookie can't even make the team, let alone be drafted.

The draft is not for just 2012 though. There is a good chance Light or Waters retires, most likely Light IMO. They like Cannon as a RT so far, so swing OT is covered if that happens.

The 2013 OL looks like this currently and some younger guys are needed.

T: Nate Solder, Marcus Cannon
G: Logan Mankins
C: Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly