Another draft day trade possibility: other teams trading up for TE Coby Fleener? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

ay-yo · 04-08-2012, 12:35 PM

Neither SF or NYG is desperate for a TE. Sure any team could use a special player but there is no guarantee Fleener is special.

Avenger · 04-08-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ay-yo

Neither SF or NYG is desperate for a TE. Sure any team could use a special player but there is no guarantee Fleener is special.

All of NYG's TEs were injured in the Superbowl, Harbaugh coached Fleener at Stanford and has expressed interest in him. The NFL is a copycat league, Gronk and Hernandez set a precedent that other teams will try to follow.

***Sciz*** · 04-08-2012, 09:42 PM

If he were there at 31, I'd be taking him myself. Guys that are 6'6", run a 4.45, and were productive in college don't grow on trees. The NFL is all about mismatches right now, and Fleener is going to be a big one. There's no defender in the NFL right now that can match both his size and speed. And I'm not sure there are 3 guys in the NFL that can cover Gronk, Hernandez, and Fleener together, much less 3 on one team. Using 27, 48, and 62 (or whatever they end up with after trades) on defense is good enough.

That said, if the Colts bring something like their 2012 4th and 2013 1st to the table, I may have to reconsider based on the likely chance of a top-5 pick

Avenger · 04-08-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciz

If he were there at 31, I'd be taking him myself. Guys that are 6'6", run a 4.45, and were productive in college don't grow on trees. The NFL is all about mismatches right now, and Fleener is going to be a big one. There's no defender in the NFL right now that can match both his size and speed. And I'm not sure there are 3 guys in the NFL that can cover Gronk, Hernandez, and Fleener together, much less 3 on one team. Using 27, 48, and 62 (or whatever they end up with after trades) on defense is good enough.

That said, if the Colts bring something like their 2012 4th and 2013 1st to the table, I may have to reconsider based on the likely chance of a top-5 pick

nailed it, Brady works the no huddle like nobody's business, when you have 3 TEs out there and you can split Fleener and/or Hernandez out to WR that makes so many mismatches.

ay-yo · 04-08-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenger

All of NYG's TEs were injured in the Superbowl, Harbaugh coached Fleener at Stanford and has expressed interest in him. The NFL is a copycat league, Gronk and Hernandez set a precedent that other teams will try to follow.

It may be a copycat league but that doesn't mean every team jumps on every trend. SF has Vernon Davis at TE who is more than msot team's top two TEs. At WR they have Ginn and Crabtree plus FA signings Moss and Maningham. Not to mention Gore, Jacobs and Hunter at RB which is one of the best tandems in the league. Clearly skill guys is not a need.

If you are as high on Fleener as Sciz, then of course NYG or SF would take him. Any team makes room for a guy like that. If the Pats feel that good about the guy I wouldn't mind taking him either.

Avenger · 04-08-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ay-yo

It may be a copycat league but that doesn't mean every team jumps on every trend. SF has Vernon Davis at TE who is more than msot team's top two TEs. At WR they have Ginn and Crabtree plus FA signings Moss and Maningham. Not to mention Gore, Jacobs and Hunter at RB which is one of the best tandems in the league. Clearly skill guys is not a need.

If you are as high on Fleener as Sciz, then of course NYG or SF would take him. Any team makes room for a guy like that. If the Pats feel that good about the guy I wouldn't mind taking him either.

They kept all of their defensive starters they are set on defense, putting a second TE across from Davis would be one of the best things they can do in the draft, if we didn't sign Fells I would be jumping all over getting Fleener, and while I think Fleener will be better than Fells we need a defense with those draft picks.