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***PATSNUTme*** · 04-06-2012, 12:47 PM

I always find this interesting and it will be updated each week leading up to the draft.

You should read the explaination of the chart and howand why it may differ form their player ranking. "The value board below is based on considerable feedback from NFL teams and projects the league value of players"

Probably the best way to look at it is 1a 1-10 1b 11-21- 1c 22-32

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Off The Grid · 04-06-2012, 01:39 PM

Man, that is beautifull.

It's really remarkable, considering the source ~ ScuttleButt, during the height of DisInformation Season ~ but there is an unmistakable air of accuracy to this Chart ~ as accurate as such speculation can possibly hope to be, of course.

If anyone's got a more accurate Analysis of True Market Value, I'd love to see it.

***PATSNUTme*** · 04-06-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Man, that is beautifull.

It's really remarkable, considering the source ~ ScuttleButt, during the height of DisInformation Season ~ but there is an unmistakable air of accuracy to this Chart ~ as accurate as such speculation can possibly hope to be, of course.

If anyone's got a more accurate Analysis of True Market Value, I'd love to see it.

You are certainly right about disinformation season.

If it follows the past couple of years, it will get more interesting when he starts color coding different players for injury or character concerns. This is also feed to him by NFL contacts and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Off The Grid · 04-06-2012, 02:22 PM

Really remarkable...

Virtually every estimation rang as astonishingly accurate to my eyes, with but one exception:

Shea McClellin in the Mid 3rd.

That...would be a dream.

Does anyone care to speculate about the accuracy of that estimate??

everlong · 04-06-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Really remarkable...

Virtually every estimation rang as astonishingly accurate to my eyes, with but one exception:

Shea McClellin in the Mid 3rd.

That...would be a dream.

Does anyone care to speculate about the accuracy of that estimate??

McClellin stood out for me as well. He's been steadily moving up to the point where I've seen him in the low end of the first round. They also have Gilmore in the middle of the first which I find surprising. I think he's more of an early day two prospect. I also don't see Baron as middle of the first or Harrison bottom of the first. Bequette and Crick both in the 4th seems low.

This reflects my opinions on Hightower being up in the grouping of Upshaw and Kuechly and with Cox gone early and Brockers not long after.

If this held to form I'd want Kirkpatrick as the BPA at a position of need at 27 and then trade 31 to pick up more picks with the value being better with the flat talent after that.

patsfaninpa · 04-06-2012, 05:40 PM

Going by their board we could have something like this;

1a Dre Kirkpatrick - DB - Alabama - Might even project to FS if not cb

1b Whitney Mercilus - OLB - Illinois - Could he be that elusive pass rusher

2a Devon Still - DE - Penn St - Two gapper

2b Shea McClellin - LB - Boise St - Back up and groom to replace Ninko. Could prob slide inside if Mayo or Spikes injured.

3 TY Hilton or Joe Adams - WR - Immediate help in return game with potential to develop as a good wr.

4 Markelle Martin - S - Ok St - Can't believe he falls this far. Or, Brandon Taylor - S - LSU. If BB projects Kirkpatrick to FS, maybe Ron Brooks - CB - LSU.

manxman2601 · 04-07-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by everlong

McClellin stood out for me as well. He's been steadily moving up to the point where I've seen him in the low end of the first round. They also have Gilmore in the middle of the first which I find surprising. I think he's more of an early day two prospect. I also don't see Baron as middle of the first or Harrison bottom of the first. Bequette and Crick both in the 4th seems low.

This reflects my opinions on Hightower being up in the grouping of Upshaw and Kuechly and with Cox gone early and Brockers not long after.

If this held to form I'd want Kirkpatrick as the BPA at a position of need at 27 and then trade 31 to pick up more picks with the value being better with the flat talent after that.

This is becoming the norm amongst the many sources I read, if they're right, Gilmore will be the second corner taken. NFL Network are really pimping him into an almost top 10 slot.

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Originally Posted by patsfaninpa

Going by their board we could have something like this;

1a Dre Kirkpatrick - DB - Alabama - Might even project to FS if not cb

1b Whitney Mercilus - OLB - Illinois - Could he be that elusive pass rusher

2a Devon Still - DE - Penn St - Two gapper

2b Shea McClellin - LB - Boise St - Back up and groom to replace Ninko. Could prob slide inside if Mayo or Spikes injured.

3 TY Hilton or Joe Adams - WR - Immediate help in return game with potential to develop as a good wr.

4 Markelle Martin - S - Ok St - Can't believe he falls this far. Or, Brandon Taylor - S - LSU. If BB projects Kirkpatrick to FS, maybe Ron Brooks - CB - LSU.

I've had Kirkpatrick rated highly personally for two main reasons:

1. He's spectacular in run support and in sniffing out and breaking up screen passes. I think this would be a big tick for BB.

2. I think it was the Marquis Maze injury in the Championship game when he was hobbling off the field. Dre Kirkpatrick was the first 'Bama guy to sprint from the sideline to help carry Maze off the field. And you see that type of thing from him all the time. He's often the lead blocker on interception and fumble returns, one of the first to congratulate another player, the player being most active in supporting another injured player. I've watched a lot of Alabama games and Kirkpatrick always stood out as a really good team player. Have to think he'd be a plus locker room influence.

Off The Grid · 04-07-2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

This is becoming the norm amongst the many sources I read, if they're right, Gilmore will be the second corner taken. NFL Network are really pimping him into an almost top 10 slot.

I've had Kirkpatrick rated highly personally for two main reasons:

1. He's spectacular in run support and in sniffing out and breaking up screen passes. I think this would be a big tick for BB.

2. I think it was the Marquis Maze injury in the Championship game when he was hobbling off the field. Dre Kirkpatrick was the first 'Bama guy to sprint from the sideline to help carry Maze off the field. And you see that type of thing from him all the time. He's often the lead blocker on interception and fumble returns, one of the first to congratulate another player, the player being most active in supporting another injured player. I've watched a lot of Alabama games and Kirkpatrick always stood out as a really good team player. Have to think he'd be a plus locker room influence.

Roger that. Great stuff, Brother Manx.

I've always been high on KirkPatrick ~ who hasn't been?? ~ but what you've just shared, here, had completely escaped my attention. Speaking for myself, his Stock just got a big boost.

rookBoston · 04-07-2012, 11:54 AM

Yeah, McClellin seems way out of line at 3B. I would take him in the 2nd.

Konz at 2A is not a big shock, but it is a bit surprising that he's rated behind his teammate Zeitler who's 1C.

Devon Still at 2B is surprising, and even more surprising is that he's stacked behind Ta'amu, Reyes and Thompson. wth?

Chase Minnefield at 5A seems like a bargain.

Vontaze Burfict at 7B seems WAY TOO HIGH, lol... that guy is a wasted pick

This is a great framework and a great way to view the draft. I've got it bookmarked.

Patsfanin Philly · 04-07-2012, 03:57 PM

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This is a great framework and a great way to view the draft. I've got it bookmarked.

Does anybody have a link to his 2011 chart? I'm curious to see how that one played out....and can't seem to find it online.