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NinjaZX6R · 03-28-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Apparently Dallas are interested in both Peter Konz and a 5-tech. If it's going to happen, that could be the one. 27+31 = 1280 / 14 + 81 = 1285. We jump just ahead of the Eagles and snag Brockers or Cox (whomever's fallen), the Cowboys trade down and get Konz and Reyes.

One cautionary note. There's a lot of speculation putting Fletcher Cox with the Rams - Jeff Fisher loves to build around his D/Line and I can see the Chiefs going for Brockers. Glenn Dorsey's on huge money and in the final year of his contract and one's got to think that Scott Pioli buys into the Patriots view of the ideal DE and has both Cox and Brockers very high on his board. And then there's the Panthers too. Cox and Brockers may not make it past 9 or 11.

Yeah. I could see KC taking a 5 tech. Glenn is not a natural 5 tech. He is better suited to play 3tech as a 43 DT.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot · 03-28-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Apparently Dallas are interested in both Peter Konz and a 5-tech. If it's going to happen, that could be the one. 27+31 = 1280 / 14 + 81 = 1285. We jump just ahead of the Eagles and snag Brockers or Cox (whomever's fallen), the Cowboys trade down and get Konz and Reyes.

One cautionary note. There's a lot of speculation putting Fletcher Cox with the Rams - Jeff Fisher loves to build around his D/Line and I can see the Chiefs going for Brockers. Glenn Dorsey's on huge money and in the final year of his contract and one's got to think that Scott Pioli buys into the Patriots view of the ideal DE and has both Cox and Brockers very high on his board. And then there's the Panthers too. Cox and Brockers may not make it past 9 or 11.

I'd be really surprised if Kc took a 5-tech over a NT like Poe or a RT like Reiff.

manxman2601 · 03-28-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

I'd be really surprised if Kc took a 5-tech over a NT like Poe or a RT like Reiff.

Well they don't need a RT now with one of the best free agency signings in Eric Winston. And I'd be really surprised if Pioli sees Poe as a legit NT worth taking at #11. There's no way I'd invest that in a NT that can be blocked by a RB. Poe needs to play alongside someone inside and not face the pressures that being a NT in a 3-4 entails. Chiefs would be better off overdrafting Chapman in the 2nd.

Ochmed Jones · 03-28-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

One cautionary note. There's a lot of speculation putting Fletcher Cox with the Rams - Jeff Fisher loves to build around his D/Line and I can see the Chiefs going for Brockers. Glenn Dorsey's on huge money and in the final year of his contract and one's got to think that Scott Pioli buys into the Patriots view of the ideal DE and has both Cox and Brockers very high on his board. And then there's the Panthers too. Cox and Brockers may not make it past 9 or 11.

I hear that Carolina is absolutely in love with Brockers and practically has his name on the card and ready to turn in. It would take someone like Clairborne falling for them to pass on Brockers.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot · 03-28-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Well they don't need a RT now with one of the best free agency signings in Eric Winston. And I'd be really surprised if Pioli sees Poe as a legit NT worth taking at #11. There's no way I'd invest that in a NT that can be blocked by a RB. Poe needs to play alongside someone inside and not face the pressures that being a NT in a 3-4 entails. Chiefs would be better off overdrafting Chapman in the 2nd.

Ah, I didn't know they picked up Winston. I agree with you on Poe (and Chapman), but we can't know that Pioli does. Theres also guard (DeCastro) and ILB (Kuechly) that are other big needs.

***Mark Morse*** · 03-28-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

Apparently Dallas are interested in both Peter Konz and a 5-tech. If it's going to happen, that could be the one. 27+31 = 1280 / 14 + 81 = 1285. We jump just ahead of the Eagles and snag Brockers or Cox (whomever's fallen), the Cowboys trade down and get Konz and Reyes.

One cautionary note. There's a lot of speculation putting Fletcher Cox with the Rams - Jeff Fisher loves to build around his D/Line and I can see the Chiefs going for Brockers. Glenn Dorsey's on huge money and in the final year of his contract and one's got to think that Scott Pioli buys into the Patriots view of the ideal DE and has both Cox and Brockers very high on his board. And then there's the Panthers too. Cox and Brockers may not make it past 9 or 11.

I can see the Pats taking either Keuchly, or Kirkpatrick with the 14th pick. BB has never taken a pure OG in 1st round which would eliminate DeCastro. He likes players that played OT in college and moves them to OT (Mankins). There are other guards like Brandon Brooks that he might take in the 2nd round.

Merril Hoge's Tie Knot · 03-28-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Morse

I can see the Pats taking either Keuchly, or Kirkpatrick with the 14th pick. BB has never taken a pure OG in 1st round which would eliminate DeCastro. He likes players that played OT in college and moves them to OT (Mankins). There are other guards like Brandon Brooks that he might take in the 2nd round.

All the more reason to love Silatolu. He's going to be a wall as a guard.

Off The Grid · 03-28-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ay-yo

I wanted to pitch a new trade up scenario. Instead of giving 2 or 3 picks for 1, what if the trade up didn't change the quantity of picks the Pats had or even resulted in us having more total picks! It would be 2 picks for a higher pick and a lower pick(s).

1 ~ Well, it's not actually a new scenario, per se, Brother AyYo: These kinds of trades are made all the time. But if you mean that in the context of "hereabouts" ~ and well you may!! ~ then it is, indeed, rarefied ground!!

2 ~ I like the thinking, though, and it's one I always integrate into my Mocks, on the rare occasions where I do Trade Up. As RookBoston points out, you do have to find a willing Trade Partner, but the allure of having, say, two Day 1 Picks instead of one, and kicking in only a Day 3 Pick to seal the deal can be and has been very agreeable to many a GM over the years.