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Old 03-24-2012, 10:41 AM   #1
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Time to revisit Brockers, especially since New England is one of the teams he is visiting in the weeks to come. We know he has the length and the weight to strive as a 3-4 DE.

On his pro day, he got his time down into the 5.1 range.

At the combine he only did 19 reps.

His film from last season, especially in the BCS championship game, is amazing.

I think there is good reason to believe he is slipping on some draft board.

No doubt in my mind, that he needs a red shirt year in our defense, but at the same time after the red shirt year, if he develops under the watchful eye of Pepper, he could be the next Seymour in our defense.

Is he worth trading up to go get? How much do we trade?

In my mind if we can trade #31 and #48 to move up to #15, to take him,that would still leave us #27 for ILB/OLB Hightower, #63 for FS Martin, the third rounder for OT Potter and the fourth rounder for OLB Bequette, maybe.
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Time to revisit Brockers, especially since New England is one of the teams he is visiting in the weeks to come. We know he has the length and the weight to strive as a 3-4 DE.

On his pro day, he got his time down into the 5.1 range.

At the combine he only did 19 reps.

His film from last season, especially in the BCS championship game, is amazing.

I think there is good reason to believe he is slipping on some draft board.

No doubt in my mind, that he needs a red shirt year in our defense, but at the same time after the red shirt year, if he develops under the watchful eye of Pepper, he could be the next Seymour in our defense.

Is he worth trading up to go get? How much do we trade?

In my mind if we can trade #31 and #48 to move up to #15, to take him,that would still leave us #27 for ILB/OLB Hightower, #63 for FS Martin, the third rounder for OT Potter and the fourth rounder for OLB Bequette, maybe.
Not a bad thought OJ, IF he falls to the Pats at one of their first round picks. He MIGHT be worth the risk if he falls to us, but you'd never risk trading UP for a guy who is just as likely to end up being Jonathan Sullivan as Richard Seymour. This is especially true for a guy who you admit yourself could use a red shirt year. If you are trading up in the first round, you want a starter.
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Time to revisit Brockers, especially since New England is one of the teams he is visiting in the weeks to come. We know he has the length and the weight to strive as a 3-4 DE.

On his pro day, he got his time down into the 5.1 range.

At the combine he only did 19 reps.

His film from last season, especially in the BCS championship game, is amazing.

I think there is good reason to believe he is slipping on some draft board.

No doubt in my mind, that he needs a red shirt year in our defense, but at the same time after the red shirt year, if he develops under the watchful eye of Pepper, he could be the next Seymour in our defense.

Is he worth trading up to go get? How much do we trade?

In my mind if we can trade #31 and #48 to move up to #15, to take him,that would still leave us #27 for ILB/OLB Hightower, #63 for FS Martin, the third rounder for OT Potter and the fourth rounder for OLB Bequette, maybe.
I thought he didn't bench at combine?
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Has a very high ceiling, and exactly the frame that BB would want at 3-4 DE. The question will be whether he has the work ethic to reach his potential. If he doesn't have the heart for the work, and isn't coachable, he'll be a huge disappointment to some team that could have had Fletcher Cox or Devin Still instead.

If he's got the mind for it, trading into the low teens would be great value for a player that would eventually replace Wilfork as the star of the DL. Anything less than that, we may as well wait-see. I would trade into the low 20s for Cox, or sit still at 27 for Still.
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Brockers can contribute on run downs as a rookie. He is a big-time work in progress rushing the passer.

His frame is unreal. If you're drafting measurables, he is a no-brainer.
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I thought he didn't bench at combine?
His right shoulder was bothering him. He did not lift.
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Could Brockers be the guy the Pats are rumored to love in the top 10?
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I hope not. He's not worth a top-10 pick. Fletcher Cox, OTOH...
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I'm wondering if his slower times will scare the 4-3 teams off and maybe some of the one gap 3-4 teams. KC although end isn't a need could take him and then there's that run of teams in the middle of the round with AZ, Dallas, Philly and the Jets. I find it hard to believe he makes it by this grouping but if he does he might make it all the way to the 22-23 range and we could trade up in front of the Steelers much cheaper.

Honestly I think the Eagles are going to take him. I know they're a 4-3 team but that's a Reid type of pick. That's provided Keuchly is off the board and I think Seattle will take him.

I'm hoping Cox makes it to the early 20's and they trade up. I think Brockers will be far more stout against the run but I believe Cox has a far greater upside for rushing the passer.
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Don';t set any store by Pro Day 40s. They're run on an athletics track more often than not and indoors. They always improve on their combine results. Heck, I think Alshon Jeffery deliberate;y put off his 40, despite being healthy, so it didn't make him look bad at the combine.

Brockers is horribly raw. #27 might be a good spot but top 10? No thanks. LSU D Line prospects have a habit of busting at the pro level;...he's going to be the next big one.
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