Patriots 2012 draft picks: Peter Konz, Harrison Smith, Juron Criner, Brandon Boykin - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

NinjaZX6R · 02-18-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

So what if 5 idiots claimed the same thing. Smith didnt fail to wrap up at any critical time. On the contrary, he doesnt go for the big hit, he goes for the tackle every time and doesnt miss. That he misses tackles too often is huge lie. Big ******ing liars. The fact that you didnt even check and parroted blindly what idiots claim is clear evidence how much you talk out of your arse.

They are not highlights clown. They are the vast majority of the actual plays from the game in which harrison smith was involved. This is highlights ( it even says highlights, so that thick empty skulled idiots can understand) Harrison Smith Highlights - YouTube

Uh oh, what a hypocrite. So now for Smith it doesnt matter than he didnt start as safety until 2 years before he entered the NFL draft, but for JPP is a huge deal that he didnt start playing football until his junior year in highschool.

Actually Smith is a great great tackler. Once he has his target in his hands, that target immediately falls to the ground. In spite of the lies parroted by the idiot scouts, he doesnt go for the highlight hit, he wraps up his target and thats it, target falls down.

Fact is, Smith went up against the best QB of this year's class, and did very well, tackling and in coverage. I noticed that you never once adressed this fact, you keep claiming that other safeties in this years class are better than him, even though those safeties faced real "feeble competition", all kinds of mediocre QBs.
But hey, for Barron the "feeble competition" doesnt count, it counts only for Wolfe. At least the resident clowns cant accuse Smith of facing "feeble competition", so they came up with other idiotic arguments to attack him, "below average hip flexibility". HAHAHA.

And no, I didnt spew BS in 90% of my posts. I didnt spew BS not even in 10% of my posts, not even in 1%. Numerous people dont like the cold hard facts, they come up with idiotic excuses like "feeble competition" "below average hip flexibility" etc.

That video is a HIGHLIGHT. An actual snap video would include all his snaps.

***DaBruinz*** · 02-18-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

So what if 5 idiots claimed the same thing. Smith didnt fail to wrap up at any critical time. On the contrary, he doesnt go for the big hit, he goes for the tackle every time and doesnt miss. That he misses tackles too often is huge lie. Big ******ing liars. The fact that you didnt even check and parroted blindly what idiots claim is clear evidence how much you talk out of your arse.

Yes, 5 legitimate and highly thought of sites that hold more legitimacy than your idiocy. And I don't mean Mel Kiper either. But, yes, everyone should take YOUR word over that of legitimate sites.

Just because YOU say so.

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

They are not highlights clown. They are the vast majority of the actual plays from the game in which harrison smith was involved. This is highlights ( it even says highlights, so that thick empty skulled idiots can understand) Harrison Smith Highlights - YouTube

Yes, they are highlights, you clown. They had to be since it only covered 7:57 seconds. Are you honestly going to say that Notre Dame limited the opposing offenses in those two games to just 7:57 seconds of offensive possession?

Also, There were more than a few plays in both games where Smith did not wrap up, particularly on running plays. There was one huge whiff when he went for the big hit in the game against Stanford. Oh wait.. but you said he didn't do that..

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

Uh oh, what a hypocrite. So now for Smith it doesnt matter than he didnt start as safety until 2 years before he entered the NFL draft, but for JPP is a huge deal that he didnt start playing football until his junior year in highschool.

There is nothing hypocritical about what I said. But you clearly lack the comprehensive ability to understand that as well. There is a huge difference between having played a game for 8 - 10 years (or more) and making a position switch on the defensive side of the ball as Smith did and having only played organized football for 4 years TOTAL...

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

Actually Smith is a great great tackler. Once he has his target in his hands, that target immediately falls to the ground. In spite of the lies parroted by the idiot scouts, he doesnt go for the highlight hit, he wraps up his target and thats it, target falls down.

Fact is, Smith went up against the best QB of this year's class, and did very well, tackling and in coverage. I noticed that you never once adressed this fact, you keep claiming that other safeties in this years class are better than him, even though those safeties faced real "feeble competition", all kinds of mediocre QBs.

What is there to address? You seem to think that have 1 PD and 2 tackles is some kind of amazing feat. It's not. Especially when your team loses 28-14... So, you'll forgive me if I don't take your word on how Smith did "very well" against Stanford.
But hey, for Barron the "feeble competition" doesnt count, it counts only for Wolfe. At least the resident clowns cant accuse Smith of facing "feeble competition", so they came up with other idiotic arguments to attack him, "below average hip flexibility". HAHAHA.

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

And no, I didnt spew BS in 90% of my posts. I didnt spew BS not even in 10% of my posts, not even in 1%. Numerous people dont like the cold hard facts, they come up with idiotic excuses like "feeble competition" "below average hip flexibility" etc.

Yes, you do spew BS in 90% of your posts. I'm one of many people who have called you out on your garbage. And I can guarantee you that several of the people who have done so have more football knowledge than either of us.

When you actually post a fact that someone else hasn't mentioned previously it will be the 1st time you have done so.

patsderoer · 02-19-2012, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Yes, 5 legitimate and highly thought of sites that hold more legitimacy than your idiocy. And I don't mean Mel Kiper either. But, yes, everyone should take YOUR word over that of legitimate sites.

Just because YOU say so.

Yes, they are highlights, you clown. They had to be since it only covered 7:57 seconds. Are you honestly going to say that Notre Dame limited the opposing offenses in those two games to just 7:57 seconds of offensive possession?

What idiocy. This really shows what a ignorant clown you are. If you stopped talking out of your arse, and did some research, you would know that the actual playing time in american football is a lot less than 60min. Football Games Have 11 Minutes of Action - WSJ.com
According to a Wall Street Journal study of four recent broadcasts, and similar estimates by researchers, the average amount of time the ball is in play on the field during an NFL game is about 11 minutes.

Yeah, 11min of actual playing time. Let that enter and maybe register in your thick empty skull.
Split that in half for every team, and every team had the ball for 5:30 min and has to defend for 5:30min. Lets say a team dominated TOP, still it is very hard to have more than double the other's team TOP. So lets say that the dominant team's TOP is double or a little more than the other's. Lets say Stanford had 7:30 min the ball and Notre Dame 3:30 of actual playing time.
Of course, Harrison Smith did not make a play in every defensive snap, lets say he was involved(made plays) in a quarter of the defensive snaps, which is still too high. Thats like 1:53min of actual playing time. Double that to account for replays, account for the few seconds before the snap and its like 4mins. That vid showed 3:45 of plays and replays from the Stanford game where Smith was involved.
And thats taking it to the extreme and putting Stanford at more than double the TOP.
Yeah, those 3:45 min of actual playing time and replays are more than enough to account for the vast majority of plays Harrison Smith was involved in. Those 3:45 from the Stanford game are certainly NOT HIGHLIGHTS.
If they were highlights, it should have included Smith's biggest play of the game, when he pass rushes and forces Luck to throw an INT. Since it doesnt include this great play of Smith, you have to pretty retarded to claim that those 3:45 segment from the Stanford game were his highlights. But then again, you spew BS after BS in every post you direct at me, so I'm not surprised.

So contrary to you idiotic ignorant claim, It is like I said it is, not highlights, but the vast majority of the time Harrison Smith was involved in plays. They missed some plays of Smith, but surely the vast majority were there.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Also, There were more than a few plays in both games where Smith did not wrap up, particularly on running plays. There was one huge whiff when he went for the big hit in the game against Stanford. Oh wait.. but you said he didn't do that..

Your lies. There was no big hit of Smith in that vid in the segment against Stanford. You cannot stop talking out of your arse.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

There is nothing hypocritical about what I said. But you clearly lack the comprehensive ability to understand that as well. There is a huge difference between having played a game for 8 - 10 years (or more) and making a position switch on the defensive side of the ball as Smith did and having only played organized football for 4 years TOTAL...

What idiocy. So now playing 4 years of organized football is not enough to learn american football. You think JPP is a retard? How much should JPP have had ? 10 years? 20? Your idiotic claims are really idiotic. Others players have switched from basketball to football in college, and they had no problem learning football in 3 or less years.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

What is there to address? You seem to think that have 1 PD and 2 tackles is some kind of amazing feat. It's not. Especially when your team loses 28-14... So, you'll forgive me if I don't take your word on how Smith did "very well" against Stanford.

2 tackles? You really are talking out of your arse. You cant even count. There were a whole lot more than 2 tackles from Smith in that vid in the segment against Stanford.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz

Yes, you do spew BS in 90% of your posts. I'm one of many people who have called you out on your garbage. And I can guarantee you that several of the people who have done so have more football knowledge than either of us.

When you actually post a fact that someone else hasn't mentioned previously it will be the 1st time you have done so.

You spew BS after BS after BS in every post you direct at me.
I posted plenty of facts than were not posted before, I posted about Wolfe, about Bequette, about Miles Burris, etc.

Learn to count you ignorant clown. And go see a mental health doctor, cause you are seeing things that are not there, like Smith's big hit against Stanford which does not appear in that vid.

Off The Grid · 02-19-2012, 07:16 AM

Harrison Smith??

Interesting Prospect.

Lousy tackler, though.

And his hip flexibility sucks.

Defsoul · 02-19-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Harrison Smith??

Interesting Prospect.

Lousy tackler, though.

And his hip flexibility sucks.

Brandon Meriweather is the epitome of a louse tackler. Harrison is decent. He will miss some like most guys because tackling has become a lost art today.

Off The Grid · 02-19-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Off The Grid

Harrison Smith??

Interesting Prospect.

Lousy tackler, though.

And his hip flexibility sucks.

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Originally Posted by Defsoul

Brandon Meriweather is the epitome of a louse tackler. Harrison is decent. He will miss some like most guys because tackling has become a lost art today.

***DaBruinz*** · 02-19-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

Of course, Harrison Smith did not make a play in every defensive snap, lets say he was involved(made plays) in a quarter of the defensive snaps, which is still too high. Thats like 1:53min of actual playing time. Double that to account for replays, account for the few seconds before the snap and its like 4mins. That vid showed 3:45 of plays and replays from the Stanford game where Smith was involved.
And thats taking it to the extreme and putting Stanford at more than double the TOP.
Yeah, those 3:45 min of actual playing time and replays are more than enough to account for the vast majority of plays Harrison Smith was involved in. Those 3:45 from the Stanford game are certainly NOT HIGHLIGHTS.

I deleted all the extraneous BS you posted because it has no relevance. There are between 60-70 offensive/defensive plays a game. And Coaches/Scouts look at ALL the plays when scouting because they want to know what a player is doing even if he's "not involved in the play".

BTW, That video showed only 14 plays from the Stanford game. Stanford ran 73 passing and rushing plays. That is only 20% of the plays. OK. I'll give you that it's not a highlight real. It's a snippet real. And not a great one at that.

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

Your lies. There was no big hit of Smith in that vid in the segment against Stanford. You cannot stop talking out of your arse.

Really? There was no attempt by Smith to go for the big hit in the Stanford section? *ROFLMAO*

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

What idiocy. So now playing 4 years of organized football is not enough to learn american football. You think JPP is a retard? How much should JPP have had ? 10 years? 20? Your idiotic claims are really idiotic. Others players have switched from basketball to football in college, and they had no problem learning football in 3 or less years.

Who said he hadn't learned the game? That isn't what I said. I said there was a huge difference in experience. I said that JPP was RAW. Which he was. BTW, there are plenty of players who continue to learn things in the NFL from the day the enter to the day they leave. Acting like that isn't fact shows that you don't understand the game.

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

2 tackles? You really are talking out of your arse. You cant even count. There were a whole lot more than 2 tackles from Smith in that vid in the segment against Stanford.

Smith had 2 solo tackles and 2 assisted tackles against Stanford. That is what he was credited with.

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Originally Posted by patsderoer

You spew BS after BS after BS in every post you direct at me.
I posted plenty of facts than were not posted before, I posted about Wolfe, about Bequette, about Miles Burris, etc.

Learn to count you ignorant clown. And go see a mental health doctor, cause you are seeing things that are not there, like Smith's big hit against Stanford which does not appear in that vid.

I haven't spewed a single word of BS in my posts. I leave that to the uneducated like yourself. And no, you haven't posted any facts that haven't already been posted by someone else. You really need to learn to read and comprehend what is said instead of just making silly assumptions like you have.

Clearly you are just pissed that people don't have a hard on over Smith the way you do. Enjoy the ignore list..

NinjaZX6R · 02-19-2012, 02:03 PM

Harrison Smith looks more like a SS than a FS. I'll pass on him unless he is there in the 4th and later rounds.

***DaBruinz*** · 02-19-2012, 04:58 PM

If the Pats feel that Smith's technique is all that is the issue and they draft him, great. But I just don't see him being 1st round caliber. Maybe with the 63rd pick in round 2..

MP-Logick · 02-24-2012, 06:34 PM

@PackerReport with a quote from Peter Konz today:

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My major is radio-television-film. I love it. I love attention! I don’t know. As a kid, my mom would put on Brett Favre interviews and I loved how he didn’t talk about, ‘We played a great game. We gave 100 percent. We respect the other team.’ I wanted to break that cycle. I wanted to be that guy to say, ‘You know what? I’ve got a personal story. I’ve got more tied into this game than somebody else might have.’ For instance, I’m in Indianapolis and I feel at home because I was baptized at a church on Meridian Street and my grandparents live here, I’ve got cousins here. It’s just nice to be in Indy and it’s a great honor to be here.

Doesn't sound very Patriot-like to me!