NePatriots

We trade #7 to Carolina for #13 and #67.

#13 - Branden Albert - OG/OT - Virginia

Trade #62 and #67 to Detroit Lions for #45 and #111

#45 - Cliff Avril - OLB/DE - Purdue

#69 - Charles Godfrey - CB - Iowa

#94 - Chevis Jackson - CB - LSU

Round 4a - Jonathan Goff - ILB - Vanderbilt

Round 4b - Kellen Davis - TE - Mich. St.

Round 5a - Erik Ainge - QB - Tenn

Round 5b - Owen Schmitt - FB - WVU

Round 6 - DRAGO - P - NDSU

Round 7 - Mike Klinkenborg - ILB - Iowa

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jeffbiologist

I like the idea and the players but I think you are being a little greedy with the trades. The value chart says 7 and 62 = 13 and 45 more of less. We will be initiating the trade, so I would 86 #111 and hope to get Goff in the 5th instead of Ainge.

NePatriots

which chart though? Even without the #111 I would be very happy.

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VJCPatriot

Man this looks like a cookie cutter draft. What's up with all the group think - Branden Albert drafts? Drafting a guard with a high 1st rounder is hardly one of the Pats most pressing needs for 2008.

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MoLewisrocks

WE don't draft for need. We draft for value. Albert is inching into the top ten on a lot of boards. Mayock has been on him for weeks, says he projects as a tackle. He seems to think we can address some needs like CB and pure pass rusher and ILB in the second and third rounds which would make those value picks.

wiggins!

Mo, I used to believe that "we don't draft for need" thing too but hear me out on this one and i'm only going 1st rounders.

Last year, Merriweather - turns out to be a starter at the beginning of the year (see rodney's suspension) and then basically a "5th or 6th man" in the secondary.

06, Maroney - splits time with CD rookie year (very good season by the way) and is now the starter.

05, Mankins - starter from the get-go at left guard.

There's obvious value with each of those picks and where they were made but as it turns out, there was a "need" wasn't there?

I don't think the "need" vs. "value" argument is as clear cut as everyone thinks.

I believe, IMO, if they pick in the top 15, it's best player available.

I still maintain this year, IF, and it's a big if, for some reason, McFadden's there at 7 an no trades are in the works, he's a Pat next year.

Just wanted to toss that out there and see what you think.

State

Great job. I love the idea of solidifying our OL, which is held together by damn good coaching (my man Dante S.) and chicken guts and bailing wire.

Stephen Neal, Nick Kaczur?

Matt Light probably should be a guard or right tackle.

If we get exposed this year like we did in the SB, then our unquestioned best asset--Tom Brady--is harmed. And I don't hope literally.

We've been lucky so far with a patched up OL and going high with defense, but let's turn the tables around and go interior line at offensive to bring some skill and athleticism.

Albert would be versatile enough to plug in at guard or right tackle. It's all about keeping Brady safe, unharried, to make the appropriate reads.

Here's what I suspect is the Patriots flow chart: If Gholston is available at 7, take him. Otherwise trade down to get more value. I think Keith Rivers or Brandon Albert are two players with good value a few spots later in the draft, though both are risky past #10. Hell, I wouldn't be upset if the Pats stayed where they are to draft either one.

I definitely don't like a CB at #7. I think the talent doesn't justify that.

So my guess is the Patriots will first draft Gholston, Rivers, or Albert.

NePatriots

Ouch. I haven't been here long enough to go all 1984 yet. I know I want Avril/Godfrey so I had to find a way to get it done. I imagine my 4th-7th look like others just because there are only a few players that seem to fit our system and needs that late.

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DaBruinz

Just because you don't understand VALUE doesn't mean that the rest of us don't understand value.

If you think replacing an injury prone 31 year old guard isn't a pressing need, then so be it. Some of us think it is.

MoLewisrocks

I think you are confusing want with need. We didn't need any of those players - we wanted them because they represented upgrades immediately or in the forseeable future. Merriweather was a redo on the Miami SS Bill passed up due to character concerns. He knew Rodney isn't getting any younger, and he likely knew Wilson and Samuel were on their farewell tour, but he expected Rodney back for at least one more season and he never anticipated a suspension... Maroney was something of a sea change - talent and speed as opposed to brute power which would allow us to run a two back tandem featuring very divergent styles. Opening up this offense - something we have done incrementally but consistently save a hiccup named Branch... Mankins was an acknowledgement that the franchise is a HOF QB who deserved more than coached up metaphors he did more for than visa versa (just like Moss and Stallworth and Welker were an acknowledgement that as good as he is it would be criminal to nickle and dime him on weapons given what he can do with chewing gum and string...).

As for McFadden, he represents neither want or need and therefore zero value in the first round let alone at #7. Too much money, to much risk of bust or injury at that position, no functional value on a team with Brady, Moss, Welker, Maroney, Faulk... They dropped 38 on the Giants in December and would have approached that again if the OL had not literally folded under pressure (up the middle moreso than from the edges even) in February. Improving the pass rush almost always pays dividends, but the existing defense cut their NYG points allowed in half over the same time span. Mayock has had McFadden well outside his top ten for months, and a concensus seems to be building that he is more hype than substance. Ditto the corners. Better value in the second and third. LOS is the value in the top ten of most drafts. All the know it all's laughed at Houston two years ago, now they have an all pro DE and New Orleans has a disappointing multi-millionaire RB dating Kim Kardashian (and Tennessee has an athletic project at QB entering his third season...).