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Probably the final one before the draft. I've got the Patriots replenishing their LBs, so take it for what it's worth. Complete mock here: http://www.199overall.com/?q=node/35
#7 New England trades this pick to Cincinnati for #9 and #77. The Bengals take Sedric Ellis.
#9 New England trades this pick, along with #129 to Minnesota for #17 and #47. The Vikings take Derrick Harvey
#17 Quentin Groves OLB Auburn
#27 San Diego trades this pick to New England for #47 and #62. The Patriots take Antoine Cason CB Arizona
#69 Eric Young G/T Tennessee
#77 Josh Barrett S Arizona St
#94 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian St
#164 Stanford Keglar LB Purdue
#197 Jalen Parmele RB Toledo
#238 Jeremy Leman ILB Illinois
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DryHeat, all my little mental mocks this week have had the Pats maneuvering for 2 picks in the 12-30 range for Groves and Cason. Would love to see it happen.
I'm struck by how much deeper this year's draft is than last year's, when I sat around glumly contemplating how I didn't like ANYBODY at 24. Groves, Cason, Jarod Mayo and even Jonathan Stewart are all legitimate possibilities in that range this year who would make me happy.
That's a lot of trades for your average team, but the Patriots aren't against pulling multiple draft day trades, so this could happen. Some of it goes along with what I've been pondering the past few weeks. Trading down, and picking up an additional pick, then trading up in the back of the first, or the top of the second, would seem like a good idea.
The other thing I've been trying to figure out is what would be their best trade for future picks? I'm thinking they could trade down, and pick up a mid second rounder, then trade that mid second off to someone else for their 2009 first rounder, or their 2009 second, and 2008 third?
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Last edited by sebman2112; 04-18-2008 at 08:55 AM..
There is no chance that Quentin Groves is taken by the Patriots in the 1st round. Groves is falling like a ton of bricks. He could very well now be there for their 2nd round pick. Groves doesn't give them great value in the 1st round. He's a bit of a character corcern along with a bit of a injury history.
Antoine Cason at #27 makes tons of sense, I could see something like that happening. I doubt they would trade back into the first round to get him, but they would in round #2. I believe the Patriots love him.
On another note, I know it happens alot, but doing mock draft w/trades is kind of foolish. It's too hard to predict. I know that trades will occur, but there too hard to predict. I prefer a regular mock and leave the trades out. That's just me. Good work on the mock though.
Pretty decent draft for the pats but looking at the mock draft at 199 i believe there are to many trades.. No way Jets are trading out.. They need a top talent not depth..
They can't go thru another season where they end up with another top 10 pick in the draft..
I like the picks, but 2 trades in the top 10 is unlikely. It's rare to have even one trade.
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There is no chance that Quentin Groves is taken by the Patriots in the 1st round. Groves is falling like a ton of bricks. He could very well now be there for their 2nd round pick. Groves doesn't give them great value in the 1st round. He's a bit of a character corcern along with a bit of a injury history.
I highly doubt Belichick cares if other teams have Groves falling down their boards. If that's his player, he'll take him at the spot that he has him valued at. If it's not at 17, than he won't draft him there. But it absolutely won't be because the scuttlebutt says he's falling.
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On another note, I know it happens alot, but doing mock draft w/trades is kind of foolish. It's too hard to predict. I know that trades will occur, but there too hard to predict. I prefer a regular mock and leave the trades out. That's just me. Good work on the mock though.
It's also hard to imagine a draft without trades. I don't actually expect to get many of these right anyhow, even if I did a no-trade draft, so I'm not worried about hurting my accuracy. And thanks.
__________________ When it's third and 10, you can have the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time. -- R.I.P. Max McGee
What makes you think so much that Belichick want's Groves? Honestly, I haven't seen anything that makes me think they want him so badly. He's a good player, but he has alot of concerns. He seems to be a boom or bust pick. The Patriots typically go safe in the 1st round and I defintely don't believe that Groves is a safe pick by any means. 2nd round Yes, 1st round No Way
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